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Praxeas 11-02-2007 08:51 PM

The Proper Method for Beating Your Wife, Kids and Donkey..Islamic Dr Phil speaks
 
He's Saudi author and cleric, "Dr." Muhammad Al-'Arifi, who in a remarkable segment broadcast on Saudi and Kuwaiti television in September, counseled young Muslim men on how to treat their wives.


"Admonish them – once, twice, three times, four times, ten times," he advised. "If this doesn't help, refuse to share their beds."
And if that doesn't work?


"Beat them," one of his three young advisees responded.
"That's right," Al-'Arifi said.

He goes on to calmly explain to the young men that hitting their future wives in the face is a no-no.


"Beating in the face is forbidden, even when it comes to animals," he explained. "Even if you want your camel or donkey to start walking, you are not allowed to beat it in the face. If this is true for animals, it is all the more true when it comes to humans. So beatings should be light and not in the face."

"If he beats her, the beatings must be light and must not make her face ugly.



He should not beat her like he would beat an animal or a child -- slapping them right and left.



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307680,00.html

Sheltiedad 11-02-2007 09:00 PM

If I hadn't already heard of this in the "Apostolic" world I would be shocked. :)

Sherri 11-02-2007 09:02 PM

I'm reading the series of books about Princess Sultana - true stories of a Saudi royal princess. The stuff in those books is so shocking, it's amazing that it still goes on in this century!! She had to write them through an American author-friend, under a pseudo name, for fear of her family in Saudi Arabia. The women in her country have absolutely NO rights, and the husbands can do anything they want with them or to them, and no one is allowed to question the men. Unbelievable!!:reaction

RandyWayne 11-02-2007 09:20 PM

Sounds like some churches in Oregon and Washington.....

MissBrattified 11-02-2007 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 291074)
He's Saudi author and cleric, "Dr." Muhammad Al-'Arifi, who in a remarkable segment broadcast on Saudi and Kuwaiti television in September, counseled young Muslim men on how to treat their wives.


"Admonish them – once, twice, three times, four times, ten times," he advised. "If this doesn't help, refuse to share their beds."

Wow. Scary. ROFL!!!!


Quote:

And if that doesn't work?


"Beat them," one of his three young advisees responded.
"That's right," Al-'Arifi said.

He goes on to calmly explain to the young men that hitting their future wives in the face is a no-no.


"Beating in the face is forbidden, even when it comes to animals," he explained. "Even if you want your camel or donkey to start walking, you are not allowed to beat it in the face. If this is true for animals, it is all the more true when it comes to humans. So beatings should be light and not in the face."

"If he beats her, the beatings must be light and must not make her face ugly.
Wife, camel, donkey, all the same thing. :crazy


Quote:

He should not beat her like he would beat an animal or a child -- slapping them right and left.
My Daddy used to tell me that I could judge a man's character by the way he treated children, animals and the elderly.

Hoovie 11-02-2007 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad (Post 291077)
If I hadn't already heard of this in the "Apostolic" world I would be shocked. :)

You ARE joking I hope?

Sheltiedad 11-03-2007 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 291139)
You ARE joking I hope?

Nope...

Trouvere 11-03-2007 01:18 AM

Thank God for being who I am.Thank You Jesus.I always knew Satan beat his wife.

MissBrattified 11-03-2007 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad (Post 291158)
Nope...

It certainly would be an extreme aberration from the norm, Sheltie, and you know it. You shouldn't even insinuate otherwise. :depressed

Inequality between the sexes is one thing...it probably does exist more than it should. Abuse and ridiculous notions about spanking or beating wives is quite another.

Sheltiedad 11-03-2007 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 291806)
It certainly would be an extreme aberration from the norm, Sheltie, and you know it. You shouldn't even insinuate otherwise. :depressed

Inequality between the sexes is one thing...it probably does exist more than it should. Abuse and ridiculous notions about spanking or beating wives is quite another.

Oh, I didn't realize this was a "normal" thing in the Muslim culture... I assumed it was a one-off. I wasn't saying it is normal, but I do know of it happening in the Apostolic world.

MissBrattified 11-03-2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad (Post 291808)
Oh, I didn't realize this was a "normal" thing in the Muslim culture... I assumed it was a one-off. I wasn't saying it is normal, but I do know of it happening in the Apostolic world.

I know of an Assembly of God minister who "spanked" his wife in front of their children when she was out of line. But he's a kook. I've never encountered anyone in our organization who openly believes or teaches something like that. I thought you were implying that you had encountered someone who teaches it, like the Islamic Dr. Phil.

Some people are abusive and stupid in private, but they don't instruct others in their stupidity publicly. :rolleyes:

Sheltiedad 11-03-2007 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 291819)
I know of an Assembly of God minister who "spanked" his wife in front of their children when she was out of line. But he's a kook. I've never encountered anyone in our organization who openly believes or teaches something like that. I thought you were implying that you had encountered someone who teaches it, like the Islamic Dr. Phil.

Some people are abusive and stupid in private, but they don't instruct others in their stupidity publicly. :rolleyes:

There was an Apostolic pastor (maybe 15 or 20 years ago?) who was advocating that men administer corporal punishment to their wives. My cousin and her husband went to his church. When my uncle (her dad) found out about it, he had a "little" talk with both the son-in-law and possibly the so-called pastor (I'm not sure if he actually talked to the pastor or not). The family is based out of Tulsa, but the incident might have happened in Georgia. I would have to ask my mom for the specific details.

RandyWayne 11-03-2007 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad (Post 291823)
There was an Apostolic pastor (maybe 15 or 20 years ago?) who was advocating that men administer corporal punishment to their wives. My cousin and her husband went to his church. When my uncle (her dad) found out about it, he had a "little" talk with both the son-in-law and possibly the so-called pastor (I'm not sure if he actually talked to the pastor or not). The family is based out of Tulsa, but the incident might have happened in Georgia. I would have to ask my mom for the specific details.

Mmmmm... Did they at least have a "safety word"? And did SHE eventually get to play the role of mistress?
LOL

Sheltiedad 11-03-2007 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 291827)
Mmmmm... Did they at least have a "safety word"? And did SHE eventually get to play the role of mistress?
LOL

LOL! That's a whole nuther conversation! :)

BrotherEastman 11-03-2007 06:50 PM

I just beat my wife up with a pillow, but she started it.

Jekyll 11-03-2007 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad (Post 291823)
There was an Apostolic pastor (maybe 15 or 20 years ago?) who was advocating that men administer corporal punishment to their wives. My cousin and her husband went to his church. When my uncle (her dad) found out about it, he had a "little" talk with both the son-in-law and possibly the so-called pastor (I'm not sure if he actually talked to the pastor or not). The family is based out of Tulsa, but the incident might have happened in Georgia. I would have to ask my mom for the specific details.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 291091)
Sounds like some churches in Oregon and Washington.....

So the whole Apostolic church is painted this way because of one incident. Bright, guys...

Sheltiedad 11-03-2007 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jekyll (Post 291873)
So the whole Apostolic church is painted this way because of one incident. Bright, guys...

Did anyone say that? If that is the case, then isn't the original post doing the same thing regarding muslims?

Switch to halogen... it's brighter.

BrotherEastman 11-03-2007 07:02 PM

Okay, my wife just won the pillow fight! LOL!

MissBrattified 11-03-2007 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 291885)
Okay, my wife just won the pillow fight! LOL!

Oh Brother. Another man who isn't the head of his house. :rolleyes: :heeheehee

ILG 11-03-2007 07:34 PM

This is really sick. How arrogant of those men to assume they are simply right about everything and must beat their wives to force them to behave the way they want them to. :crazy

ILG 11-03-2007 07:35 PM

Like the women are really going to care if he refuses to sleep with them. A jerk who had been bossing them around for how long and will beat them if they don't do what they want. Wow, I'd be turned on!!:roseglasses

MissBrattified 11-03-2007 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 291940)
Like the women are really going to care if he refuses to sleep with them. A jerk who had been bossing them around for how long and will beat them if they don't do what they want. Wow, I'd be turned on!!:roseglasses

That was the one part of the post I found VERY comical...just like a MAN to think of no sex (with an arrogant jerk) as PUNISHMENT. ROFL!!!!!!! :heeheehee

Makes a case for deliberately inciting your husband to anger so he will "punish" you. LOL!

ILG 11-03-2007 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 291949)
That was the one part of the post I found VERY comical...just like a MAN to think of no sex (with an arrogant jerk) as PUNISHMENT. ROFL!!!!!!! :heeheehee

Makes a case for deliberately inciting your husband to anger so he will "punish" you. LOL!

No kidding!!! Just goes to show how ignorant and full of themselves those guys really are!! LOL!!

This is what they THINK is going to happen!! :begging :slaphappy

Sheltiedad 11-03-2007 07:47 PM

No comment! :D

BrotherEastman 11-03-2007 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 291937)
This is really sick. How arrogant of those men to assume they are simply right about everything and must beat their wives to force them to behave the way they want them to. :crazy

When you're a part of that culture, then that is what you get i suppose. LOL!

BrotherEastman 11-03-2007 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 291940)
Like the women are really going to care if he refuses to sleep with them. A jerk who had been bossing them around for how long and will beat them if they don't do what they want. Wow, I'd be turned on!!:roseglasses

When you have more than one wife, I guess it doesn't really matter to them now does it? LOL!

ILG 11-03-2007 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 291967)
When you have more than one wife, I guess it doesn't really matter to them now does it? LOL!

If they do have more than one wife, I imagine it might have a different effect. I think the women should all agree to misbehave and bring the man to his knees!! LOL!!!

BrotherEastman 11-03-2007 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 291968)
If they do have more than one wife, I imagine it might have a different effect. I think the women should all agree to misbehave and bring the man to his knees!! LOL!!!

LOL! Now thats just plain wrong!

MissBrattified 11-03-2007 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 291968)
If they do have more than one wife, I imagine it might have a different effect. I think the women should all agree to misbehave and bring the man to his knees!! LOL!!!


:killinme:killinme:killinme:killinme:killinme

Brett Prince 11-03-2007 08:20 PM

I beat my wife all the time
 
Really. Yes. I mean it. I don't believe there is anything unscriptural about it. She doesn't like it, but I am the man and I am bigger than her, so she'll just have to live with it.





















































































































I beat her to the refrigerator.


I beat her to the soda pop.



I beat her to the cash register at ANY of the local restaurants.



I beat her to the shower in the morning.




I beat her to WORK in the morning.




I sometimes even beat her to sleep at night.





Every once in a while I beat her to the prayer room.





I often beat her to the toilet.






On a rare occasion, I beat her up............

......................the stairs.






Now see here, you CAN'T PROVE there is anything unscriptural about any of this. Beating my wife is part of the joy of living--but there is one thing about beating my wife that is first and foremost.





She makes my heart beat a little faster every time I see her...so my heart beats just a little faster than hers does when we're together. Now, how's that for manliness?






:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

ILG 11-03-2007 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett Prince (Post 291988)

She makes my heart beat a little faster every time I see her...so my heart beats just a little faster than hers does when we're together. Now, how's that for manliness?






:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Awww....that's nice. :)

Mercy 11-05-2007 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 291940)
Like the women are really going to care if he refuses to sleep with them. A jerk who had been bossing them around for how long and will beat them if they don't do what they want. Wow, I'd be turned on!!:roseglasses


I guess it would probably matter if the culture suggests you are more of a "woman" by the number of children you bare. If you aren't "doing it" then you cant have any kids....making you less of a woman in the eyes of society. So yeah, from that respect it would be punishment.

BrotherEastman 11-05-2007 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett Prince (Post 291988)
Really. Yes. I mean it. I don't believe there is anything unscriptural about it. She doesn't like it, but I am the man and I am bigger than her, so she'll just have to live with it.





















































































































I beat her to the refrigerator.


I beat her to the soda pop.



I beat her to the cash register at ANY of the local restaurants.



I beat her to the shower in the morning.




I beat her to WORK in the morning.




I sometimes even beat her to sleep at night.





Every once in a while I beat her to the prayer room.





I often beat her to the toilet.






On a rare occasion, I beat her up............

......................the stairs.






Now see here, you CAN'T PROVE there is anything unscriptural about any of this. Beating my wife is part of the joy of living--but there is one thing about beating my wife that is first and foremost.





She makes my heart beat a little faster every time I see her...so my heart beats just a little faster than hers does when we're together. Now, how's that for manliness?






:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

impressive


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