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Nahum 11-12-2007 07:33 PM

Would Jesus Be Pleased With Modern Worship?
 
Would Jesus enjoy and/or recognize modern "worship?"

Praise dancing?

Aisle running?

Screaming Halleljuah really loud?

ChicagoPastor 11-12-2007 07:34 PM

i think he would like my flags. They're really nice :)

freeatlast 11-12-2007 07:35 PM

:stirpot:stirpot:stirpot

Nahum 11-12-2007 07:36 PM

Would he enjoy the preachers screaming "My God, People!" every time the saints didn't respond as loudly as they liked?

ChicagoPastor 11-12-2007 07:36 PM

WWJD if he DID come to our service (in flesh) and as he tried to speak to us, the organist started giving Him preacher' chords?

ok, i know stupid :)

Nahum 11-12-2007 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor (Post 299821)
i think he would like my flags. They're really nice :)

Well I don't think flags are in order.

Paul didn't use 'em.

Hoovie 11-12-2007 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 299819)
Would Jesus enjoy and/or recognize modern "worship?"

Praise dancing?

Aisle running?

Screaming Halleljuah really loud?

How about speaking in tongues in the microphone at about 100 decibals?

ChicagoPastor 11-12-2007 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 299826)
Well I don't think flags are in order.

Paul didn't use 'em.


David did. (don't ask me to prove it)

We use flags and streamers. We have a tambourine team as well.

Nahum 11-12-2007 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor (Post 299825)
WWJD if he DID come to our service (in flesh) and as he tried to speak to us, the organist started giving Him preacher' chords?

ok, i know stupid :)

Think Beatitudes to the African-American organist stylings.

:yourock

freeatlast 11-12-2007 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 299826)
Well I don't think flags are in order.

Paul didn't use 'em.

Raise up a standard

Nahum 11-12-2007 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 299827)
How about speaking in tongues in the microphone at about 100 decibals?

No thanks.

Hoovie 11-12-2007 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 299824)
Would he enjoy the preachers screaming "My God, People!" every time the saints didn't respond as loudly as they liked?

or "C'mon People! We can do better than that! Don't you know who I am?!??"

freeatlast 11-12-2007 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 299827)
How about speaking in tongues in the microphone at about 100 decibals?

No way... Paul would not be pleased

Nahum 11-12-2007 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor (Post 299829)
David did. (don't ask me to prove it)

We use flags and streamers. We have a tambourine team as well.

Shameful.

WWJD?

SecretWarrior 11-12-2007 07:42 PM

I loved the time I spent overseas although short I really learned some things about Worship...Kids Dancing... whistles...and line stepping... beautiful expressions of worship...

what do we get here in the States???

Folks running into walls...

ChTatum 11-12-2007 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 299833)
or "C'mon People! We can do better than that! Don't you know who I am?!??"

Please tell me this is TIC and not reality?

ChicagoPastor 11-12-2007 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 299835)
Shameful.

WWJD?

I think he'd inhabit the temple, just like he did David's Tabernacle...where there were "praise hoops", tambourines, and structured praise dancing as well as spontaneous dancing :hanky
:bliss

freeatlast 11-12-2007 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor (Post 299839)
I think he'd inhabit the temple, just like he did David's Tabernacle...where there were "praise hoops", tambourines, and structured praise dancing as well as spontaneous dancing :hanky
:bliss

shame that so many christians deny our hebraic roots.

Nahum 11-12-2007 07:44 PM

[QUOTE]
Quote:

Originally Posted by SecretWarrior (Post 299837)
I loved the time I spent overseas although short I really learned some things about Worship...Kids Dancing... whistles...and line stepping... beautiful expressions of worship...

what do we get here in the States???

Folks running into walls...[/QUOTE]

I really have seen guys run around with their eyes closed and smack into the wall.:tattle

Nahum 11-12-2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 299841)
shame that so many christians deny our hebraic roots.


You mean like Deut 6:4?

freeatlast 11-12-2007 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SecretWarrior (Post 299837)
I loved the time I spent overseas although short I really learned some things about Worship...Kids Dancing... whistles...and line stepping... beautiful expressions of worship...

what do we get here in the States???

Folks running into walls...

LOL

or right thru the sheetrock. I saw on chuch that all the pews were broken loose from the floor.....from idiots running om the back of them....you see this shows that you are more apostolic than the brother who just runs the aisles.

freeatlast 11-12-2007 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 299844)
You mean like Deut 6:4?

The Shema?

Hoovie 11-12-2007 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 299838)
Please tell me this is TIC and not reality?

Have you not heard it? I know I have... "We can do better than that!"

Hoovie 11-12-2007 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 299846)
LOL

or right thru the sheetrock. I saw on chuch that all the pews were broken loose from the floor.....from idiots running om the back of them....you see this shows that you are more apostolic than the brother who just runs the aisles.

It means absolutely nuthin. Well it does actually... but I'll refrain.

pelathais 11-12-2007 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor (Post 299825)
WWJD if he DID come to our service (in flesh) and as he tried to speak to us, the organist started giving Him preacher' chords?

ok, i know stupid :)

I remember hearing JJ preach that if the Apostles Peter and Paul walked up to a UPC and went inside they would immediately feel right at home. I tried to picture that scene in my mind.

That's when it occured to me that Peter and Paul would probably never go inside because they would want to spend an hour or two on the front porch just inspecting the light bulb.

ChTatum 11-12-2007 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 299850)
Have you not heard it? I know I have... "We can do better than that!"

I was referring to the "Do you know who I am?" phrase.

Brother, it has been years since I attended either a UPC or ALJC church, so I am definitely out of the loop.

I have fond memories of both, but no desire to go back.

pelathais 11-12-2007 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 299846)
LOL

or right thru the sheetrock. I saw on chuch that all the pews were broken loose from the floor.....from idiots running om the back of them....you see this shows that you are more apostolic than the brother who just runs the aisles.

You were in town? Why didn't you introduce yourself and say "Hi."?

Monkeyman 11-12-2007 07:56 PM

I would like to think that He would be happy with our/my worship...

Hoovie 11-12-2007 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 299861)
I would like to think that He would be happy with our/my worship...

Of course Monk. We were talking about "other" people!

Monkeyman 11-12-2007 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 299865)
Of course Monk. We were talking about "other" people!

Nooooo, not here on AFF, say it ain't so:ursofunny

Hoovie 11-12-2007 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 299866)
Nooooo, not here on AFF, say it ain't so:ursofunny

Well Pastor Poster started it!

freeatlast 11-12-2007 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 299868)
Well Pastor Poster started it!

Gonna hafta change that boy's name to PastorThad .:yourock

ChristopherHall 11-12-2007 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 299819)
Would Jesus enjoy and/or recognize modern "worship?"

Praise dancing?

Aisle running?

Screaming Halleljuah really loud?

I think they would understand dancing for joy. Not sure about aisle running. I'm sure they'd be familiar with outbursts of praise like yelling Hallelujah. However....the concert like atmosphere of the local church would be lost on them. Throughout the book of Acts and for nearly the next 250 years Apostolic Christians mostly met in homes as a spiritual family...not large church buildings. Any musical accompaniment was most likely simple stringed instruments based on a reference in I Corinthians.

The preaching they were familiar with wouldn't be the virbrado filled tone of preaching we've grown accustomed too. The word "preached" in Greek is "dialegomai". It is a word we get our English word "dialogue" from. It brings the connotation of an expositional teaching that allows for questions and discussion. Sometimes to "preach" simply means to declare or reveal.

I believe they would most likely recognize a group of 15-20 people sitting in a living room of a brother singing as another brother played the guitar. Then there would be prayer and the teacher would teach on a passage of Scripture. There would be a period of listening and then there would be a period of discussion where questions could be asked and the congregants would learn essential Christian principles. Then if any were saved there would be repentance, prayer, infilling, and a walk to the riverside or poolfor baptism.

pelathais 11-12-2007 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall (Post 299876)
I think they would understand dancing for joy. Not sure about aisle running. I'm sure they'd be familiar with outbursts of praise like yelling Hallelujah. However....the concert like atmosphere of the local church would be lost on them. Throughout the book of Acts and for nearly the next 250 years Apostolic Christians mostly met in homes as a spiritual family...not large church buildings. Any musical accompaniment was most likely simple stringed instruments based on a reference in I Corinthians.

The preaching they were familiar with wouldn't be the virbrado filled tone of preaching we've grown accustomed too. The word "preached" in Greek is "dialegomai". It is a word we get our English word "dialogue" from. It brings the connotation of an expositional teaching that allows for questions and discussion. Sometimes to "preach" simply means to declare or reveal.

I believe they would most likely recognize a group of 15-20 people sitting in a living room of a brother singing as another brother played the guitar. Then there would be prayer and the teacher would teach on a passage of Scripture. There would be a period of listening and then there would be a period of discussion where questions could be asked and the congregants would learn essential Christian principles. Then if any were saved there would be repentance, prayer, infilling, and a walk to the riverside or poolfor baptism.

No covered dish or a bag of doritos?

But seriously, excellent points.

Hoovie 11-12-2007 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 299819)
Would Jesus enjoy and/or recognize modern "worship?"
Praise dancing?

Aisle running?

Screaming Halleljuah really loud?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall (Post 299876)
I think they would understand dancing for joy. Not sure about aisle running. I'm sure they'd be familiar with outbursts of praise like yelling Hallelujah. However....the concert like atmosphere of the local church would be lost on them. Throughout the book of Acts and for nearly the next 250 years Apostolic Christians mostly met in homes as a spiritual family...not large church buildings. Any musical accompaniment was most likely simple stringed instruments based on a reference in I Corinthians.

The preaching they were familiar with wouldn't be the virbrado filled tone of preaching we've grown accustomed too. The word "preached" in Greek is "dialegomai". It is a word we get our English word "dialogue" from. It brings the connotation of an expositional teaching that allows for questions and discussion. Sometimes to "preach" simply means to declare or reveal.

I believe they would most likely recognize a group of 15-20 people sitting in a living room of a brother singing as another brother played the guitar. Then there would be prayer and the teacher would teach on a passage of Scripture. There would be a period of listening and then there would be a period of discussion where questions could be asked and the congregants would learn essential Christian principles. Then if any were saved there would be repentance, prayer, infilling, and a walk to the riverside or poolfor baptism.

THEY?



:) Seriously... Great Post!

ChTatum 11-12-2007 08:26 PM

Brother Hall, excellent post.

Praxeas 11-12-2007 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster (Post 299819)
Would Jesus enjoy and/or recognize modern "worship?"

Praise dancing?

Aisle running?

Screaming Halleljuah really loud?

Dancing and shouting both seem to have biblical basis, but not running

Hoovie 11-12-2007 09:05 PM

Huh? Are backflips out too??

Praxeas 11-12-2007 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 299921)
Huh? Are backflips out too??

Honestly I just don't consider it "worship"...in the sense of praise. I consider it "rejoicing" or for some just plain "show offmainship" :bliss

pelathais 11-12-2007 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 299921)
Huh? Are backflips out too??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 300065)
Honestly I just don't consider it "worship"...in the sense of praise. I consider it "rejoicing" or for some just plain "show offmainship" :bliss

Yeah, yeah, Prax. And shaving your back is, what? http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/ima...ons/icon10.gif


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