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AGAPE 11-19-2007 09:40 AM

recording into laptop using audacity
 
I straight recorded out of the soundboard into the laptop last night using audacity....

the part that I recorded was 25 minutes or so long

the file was 170MB anyway to make this smaller???

delta soundman 11-19-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AGAPE (Post 305408)
I straight recorded out of the soundboard into the laptop last night using audacity....

the part that I recorded was 25 minutes or so long

the file was 170MB anyway to make this smaller???

Need to concert it to MP3. Other than that I think that is all you can do. Other than editing it.

AGAPE 11-19-2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by delta soundman (Post 305410)
Need to concert it to MP3. Other than that I think that is all you can do. Other than editing it.

I converted to .wav


maybe i shoulda did mp3

Steadfast 11-19-2007 11:02 AM

Yes, put it into a MP3 format. It's MUCH better when it comes to taking up a smaller amount of space.

We use AudioCleaning Lab 10 on our Church computer and it allows for MP3 recording, quick and easy editing and splitting it up into tracks quick as a whistle.

I use the same program for dropping my cassettes into my computer. It has some of the easiest 'cleaning' capabilities I've ever used. Can make a cassette sound like a real CD in many instances without the 'clicks and pops' of cassettes.

Praxeas 11-19-2007 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AGAPE (Post 305408)
I straight recorded out of the soundboard into the laptop last night using audacity....

the part that I recorded was 25 minutes or so long

the file was 170MB anyway to make this smaller???

Well first of all if you are going to burn it to a CD, in this case size does not matter but length of time does.

Second and most importantly with Audacity, you need to export it as an MP3 file. And if I remember right, with audacity, you need to download a "LAME" plug in.

We use Audacity. We used to save it as .au format but I kept telling the sound guys to convert it to mp3 since we are recording so others can listen...why go and edit it later on then? So rather than save it as the audacity file format I told them let's just export it as mp3 as soon as we finish recording

Praxeas 11-19-2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AGAPE (Post 305498)
I converted to .wav


maybe i shoulda did mp3

Wav files are larger but better in quality, but for simple preaching you don't really need it.

Steadfast 11-20-2007 02:02 AM

What's the deal with Audacity? I've never heard of it that I know of but always like to know about good, beneficial programs.

Praxeas 11-20-2007 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 306322)
What's the deal with Audacity? I've never heard of it that I know of but always like to know about good, beneficial programs.

It's 100% free..... :-) and you can plug in a ton of stuff that you can find
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Praxeas 11-20-2007 03:08 AM

Here is another interesting one
http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/

BoredOutOfMyMind 11-20-2007 07:00 AM

Agape, if you save as OGG format it is the quickest and it will convert to MP3 faster for the OGG is native. To make smaller files, choose a smaller wavelength. 128 as opposed to 192 will shorten the size considerably.

Audacity is open source and works great. We had the blessing of finding a pair of 1 GIG memory sticks in a yard sale for $10, and we have a 30 or 40 GIG drive so large files are not a worry for our sound. We have 100% eliminated tapes.

Praxeas 11-20-2007 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 306354)
Agape, if you save as OGG format it is the quickest and it will convert to MP3 faster for the OGG is native. To make smaller files, choose a smaller wavelength. 128 as opposed to 192 will shorten the size considerably.

Audacity is open source and works great. We had the blessing of finding a pair of 1 GIG memory sticks in a yard sale for $10, and we have a 30 or 40 GIG drive so large files are not a worry for our sound. We have 100% eliminated tapes.

lol....and the sticks were still good? I think for hardware like that I'd prefer new though I always like a good deal. We have two gigs, really fast too. Came with the heat splitters too. Audacity does it all for us, though we have other stuff, some freebies that came with our sound card, but we never use them. I use Nero to split the track for recording to a CD. Audacity can do that too, but honestly I don't want to have all those files lying around. With Nero it does it on the fly and does not physically store multiple mp3 files for one message.

I wish I had something that was more automated though. With Nero I have to wait for the entire file to "que" up before adding the indexes where I will split them. You can save a template for that file, but I wish I had a one size fits all template so I don't have to wait for que

AGAPE 11-20-2007 12:25 PM

so OGG is in the audacity file??? can I convert straight to MP3 from OGG without having to download LAME??

Praxeas 11-20-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AGAPE (Post 306642)
so OGG is in the audacity file??? can I convert straight to MP3 from OGG without having to download LAME??

If you are using Audacity you still need the lame encoder....why not just download it? OGG is already a part of Audacity.

To set the sample rates etc etc hit cntl-P

There you set up default device to record and playback, how many channels and quality.

You can reduce the sample rate which will also reduce file size, you can reduce sample format to 16bit. The you can choose uncompressed file format (when Audacity is recording in it's native format before exporting) and OGG quality as well as bit rate for MP3....

I have the lame encoder at church if you can't find it

BoredOutOfMyMind 11-20-2007 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 306617)
lol....and the sticks were still good? I think for hardware like that I'd prefer new though I always like a good deal.

The wife sold the hubby's stuff and did not know what to price them.... they were well worth even $100 for the pair at the time!

Thank you Jesus and thank you Mrs Lady who was happy to rid some junk in a yardsale!

Praxeas 11-20-2007 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 306975)
The wife sold the hubby's stuff and did not know what to price them.... they were well worth even $100 for the pair at the time!

Thank you Jesus and thank you Mrs Lady who was happy to rid some junk in a yardsale!

lol

AGAPE 11-21-2007 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 306965)
If you are using Audacity you still need the lame encoder....why not just download it? OGG is already a part of Audacity.

To set the sample rates etc etc hit cntl-P

There you set up default device to record and playback, how many channels and quality.

You can reduce the sample rate which will also reduce file size, you can reduce sample format to 16bit. The you can choose uncompressed file format (when Audacity is recording in it's native format before exporting) and OGG quality as well as bit rate for MP3....

I have the lame encoder at church if you can't find it


did a test copy to ogg last night and it did fine....can't find the lame stuff....you got a website??

Praxeas 11-21-2007 06:16 PM

Do you have winamp? Do a search for "lame" on your PC and see if it is already there. If so what you do, is go to audacity/cntr-P/fileformat/mp3 export set up and click find library...then browse to where the lame_enc.dll file is. That is all.

Otherwise here is the zip file...bah 97.7 kb is too small for a zip file...whats the point?

Ok...Ill point you...there is an exe in it but not sure if you have to run it...you might just be able to unzip it then point to the dll in audacity
http://www.free-codecs.com/download_...hp?d=2762&s=22

There...download that. All you really need is the DLL...it will work with audacity and other players like Winamp

The Dean 11-21-2007 07:29 PM

Does this thing have any cleaning capabilities such as taking out the 'popping' noise in recorded cassettes? Does it eat up a bunch of memory? We seem to have plenty of memory but even the program we have demands massive amounts of memory when it's working.

I may need to check this out as we're always trying something a little better.

Praxeas 11-21-2007 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 308119)
Does this thing have any cleaning capabilities such as taking out the 'popping' noise in recorded cassettes? Does it eat up a bunch of memory? We seem to have plenty of memory but even the program we have demands massive amounts of memory when it's working.

I may need to check this out as we're always trying something a little better.

Is not a memory hog, but does great on recording. There might be a plug in for "cleaning" but a lot of your CD burning applications come with that ability already.

You can record several tracks at once. It will accept a bunch of plug ins you can find on the net.

Nero will do the cleaning stuff

AGAPE 11-27-2007 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 308059)
Do you have winamp? Do a search for "lame" on your PC and see if it is already there. If so what you do, is go to audacity/cntr-P/fileformat/mp3 export set up and click find library...then browse to where the lame_enc.dll file is. That is all.

Otherwise here is the zip file...bah 97.7 kb is too small for a zip file...whats the point?

Ok...Ill point you...there is an exe in it but not sure if you have to run it...you might just be able to unzip it then point to the dll in audacity
http://www.free-codecs.com/download_...hp?d=2762&s=22

There...download that. All you really need is the DLL...it will work with audacity and other players like Winamp

Thanks...I downloaded Lame...
Thanks

Praxeas 11-27-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AGAPE (Post 312163)
Thanks...I downloaded Lame...
Thanks

You're welcome. We used to save to the audacity native file format, but that was too much trouble. Now we just export to MP3.

I organize all our messages by year and then month. So I have a folder that says 2007 and in that I have november, december etc etc

Plus with MP3 tags you can insert relevant information like name of speaker, name of message, date...then when doing a search it comes right up. Plus we keep a excel file of every message

BoredOutOfMyMind 11-27-2007 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 312368)
You're welcome. We used to save to the audacity native file format, but that was too much trouble. Now we just export to MP3.

I organize all our messages by year and then month. So I have a folder that says 2007 and in that I have november, december etc etc

Plus with MP3 tags you can insert relevant information like name of speaker, name of message, date...then when doing a search it comes right up. Plus we keep a excel file of every message

The ONLY annonyance seems to be the 8 mins to save a 1 hr message to MP3 format.

Praxeas 11-27-2007 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 312387)
The ONLY annonyance seems to be the 8 mins to save a 1 hr message to MP3 format.

Yeah it can take a while....having a fast PC can help with that.


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