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crazyjoe 11-20-2007 08:29 AM

Las Vegas?
 
....Does anyone out there know of a good 'Jesus name', 'oneness' apostolic church in Las Vegas?....perferably a large church....does not have to be UPCI....

deltaguitar 11-20-2007 09:41 AM

Maybe the better question is, "Where is the best Poker Room?"

pelathais 11-20-2007 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyjoe (Post 306393)
....Does anyone out there know of a good 'Jesus name', 'oneness' apostolic church in Las Vegas?....perferably a large church....does not have to be UPCI....

BOOMM used to live in the area - he maintained a secret alter ego identity in the suburban Las Vegas area for those times when his space craft was undergoing a refit out at Area 51.

I thought K.C. pastored there, at least for a while. He's listed now as being in TX again at UPCI.org.

Stand by the Bellagio fountains and pretend to "drop" your wallet in front of passers-by. You'll meet a lot of interesting people that way who you can then invite to church.

Thad 11-20-2007 10:33 AM

There is a very large PAW church in Las Vegas that has 5000 members.

I forget the name of the church but the Pastor's name is Rev. House


we sang on a program where he spoke about 7 years ago or so. I know his cousin too.


The only thing, they have no standard so if you are looking for a traditiona Pentecostal church this is not the one for you :ursofunny

RandyWayne 11-20-2007 01:01 PM

We'll be there for a conference next weekend! (Held at the Venetian hotel.)

"Whhhoooooo are you. OOoo oo OOoo oo."

SoCaliUPC 11-20-2007 02:23 PM

Venetian...one of the nicer hotels. Have you visited the Wynn yet? Take a stop on over....worth the stroll.

Thad 11-20-2007 02:30 PM

it is a nice hotel

The WYNN though is a MUST SEE!!! that hotel is unbelievable!

you have got to eat at their buffet or else !!!

RandyWayne 11-20-2007 02:52 PM

We've seen it already, but not been inside. We spent a lot of time at Ceasers, the Mirage, and of the course the MGM Grand were we spent 5 days. Oh yes, and the Excalibur.
(We personally like the downtown area much more then the strip.)

Thad 11-20-2007 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 306736)
We've seen it already, but not been inside. We spent a lot of time at Ceasers, the Mirage, and of the course the MGM Grand were we spent 5 days. Oh yes, and the Excalibur.
(We personally like the downtown area much more then the strip.)

you have got to be kidding??? the down town is run down and griddy(except for that light show at night).

they do have a nice outlet mall in between downtown and the strip though.

you have got to see the WYNN. if you don't you don't have the holy ghost:ursofunny

SoCaliUPC 11-20-2007 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 306736)
We've seen it already, but not been inside. We spent a lot of time at Ceasers, the Mirage, and of the course the MGM Grand were we spent 5 days. Oh yes, and the Excalibur.
(We personally like the downtown area much more then the strip.)

You have to go INSIDE! Puts those others to shame.

RandyWayne 11-20-2007 02:55 PM

Ok ok, we'll stop in and snap some pictures JUST FOR THAD! :)

Oh yes, we also stopped at the Hilton and rode the "Star Trek Experience" and spent some time in Quarks Bar. That was impressive!

crazyjoe 11-23-2007 05:03 PM

...ok ok i've been to all of the casinos.....won a lot of money at the ........ tables.....what about my original question.....are there any churches in las vegas?....nothing against african american churches....any white churches?...

OneAccord 11-23-2007 05:14 PM

Broken Vessel Apostolic Church - Las Vegas - J. Norman - 702.2XX.XXXX

Affliated with the Assemblies of the Lord Jesus Christ http://www.aljc.org/

THERES A PHONE NUMBER... JUST CLICK ON THE CHURCH LOCATOR TO GET THE PHONE #.

Jack Shephard 11-23-2007 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC (Post 306743)
You have to go INSIDE! Puts those others to shame.

I agree100% the nicest I have seen!

OneAccord 11-23-2007 05:42 PM

Link for churches in Las Vegas

http://yellowpages.superpages.com/li...egas%2C+NV

philjones 11-23-2007 05:47 PM

There is actually a conservative Oneness Church in Las Vegas... Bro. Epley preaches there some as does Old Paths. I just cannot remember the pastor's name. Perhaps if you send a private message to one of them they can give you the scoop on the church name and the pastor. I believe the pastor's name is Dallas Medford.

BoredOutOfMyMind 11-23-2007 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones (Post 309301)
There is actually a conservative Oneness Church in Las Vegas... Bro. Epley preaches there some as does Old Paths. I just cannot remember the pastor's name. Perhaps if you send a private message to one of them they can give you the scoop on the church name and the pastor. I believe the pastor's name is Dallas Medford.

This would be dependant if you have transportation, or if you are really good at calling a church and asking for a ride.

Bro Medford's church is 10 miles West of Downtown on a Street named Lindell. (Near Charleston and Jones Blvd)

The ALJC church is in the NorthEast about 6 miles from Downtown (last I knew)

There is a UPC church meeting about 1 mile East of Sahara Hotel. The Pastor is David Sparks.

There are others.

I am not privy of a PAW church of 5000 there. There was an Spanish Apostolic church of about 600 in North Las Vegas I believe.

Monkeyman 11-23-2007 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=crazyjoe;309272]...ok ok i've been to all of the casinos.....won a lot of money at the ........ tables.....what about my original question.....are there any churches in las vegas?....nothing against african american churches....any white churches?...[/QUOTE]


What the....*choked on my coffee*?????????? Serious? Wow!

OneAccord 11-24-2007 08:47 AM

Why, yes, I did find a white church in Las Vegas...

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...uWXYznnIx7.jpg


Praise Tabernacle
1226 Carson
Las Vegas

Steve Epley 11-24-2007 08:13 PM

The Apostolic Church of Las Vegas is pastored by Elder Steve Stolfus on Lindel it was founded by Elder Dallas Mefford a very good church about 300 folks. I have preached there more than once.

Monkeyman 11-24-2007 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 310208)
The Apostolic Church of Las Vegas is pastored by Elder Steve Stolfus on Lindel it was founded by Elder Dallas Mefford a very good church about 300 folks. I have preached there more than once.

Yes, but we NEED the racial breakdown of said church first ya know.....oh brother, sheesh!!!!!

Steve Epley 11-24-2007 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 310234)
Yes, but we NEED the racial breakdown of said church first ya know.....oh brother, sheesh!!!!!

There are white-black-brown saints in that assembly. What difference does that make? A saint is a saint regardless or color or nationality?

Monkeyman 11-24-2007 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 310250)
There are white-black-brown saints in that assembly. What difference does that make? A saint is a saint regardless or color or nationality?

Come on bro, now your PREACHIN'!!! That is what I believe too...I couldn't believe when the author of this thread asked that the color of a potential church be white...I have NEVER heard that before, but hey, what do I know???

OneAccord 11-25-2007 07:10 AM

I posted a picture of a white church. I don't know why the color of the building makes a difference. Whether its a brown, white or brick building shouldn't make a difference. But, to each his own.

Steve Epley 11-25-2007 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 310331)
Come on bro, now your PREACHIN'!!! That is what I believe too...I couldn't believe when the author of this thread asked that the color of a potential church be white...I have NEVER heard that before, but hey, what do I know???

I have pastored black saints nearly the whole time I have been pastoring. I haven't had the honor to pastor many Latin saints but I would love to. Bishop Haywood said the 'blood washes away the bloodline.' I believe that with all my heart. I have preached on the West Coast where nearly every race was present that was so neat, coming from a small rural area I really enjoyed it.

pelathais 11-25-2007 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 310586)
I have pastored black saints nearly the whole time I have been pastoring. I haven't had the honor to pastor many Latin saints but I would love to. Bishop Haywood said the 'blood washes away the bloodline.' I believe that with all my heart. I have preached on the West Coast where nearly every race was present that was so neat, coming from a small rural area I really enjoyed it.

I've heard Bro. Haywood's statement preached all my adult life and am thankful for that truth.

I think crazyjoe was getting more at the culture angle of things rather than expressing any latent racism as another poster seemed to imply.

I preached in a small "all black" PAW church once and was told by one of the men after the service that he didn't "appreciate white boys coming down to [neighborhood]." It was made quite clear that the pastor had made a "mistake" in inviting a "white boy." Lesson learned: there's all types of racism.

But even in a welcoming environment there are cultural nuances that exist in many places that make a person feel out of place. Many times these things are described as being "black," "white," "Latin" or "Asian" or whatever. The fact that most "white" Apostolic churches have historically copied aspects of "black" churches and culture adds a layer of complexity to these generalizations.

In looking for a church to attend or visit you want a good fit; especially if you have loved ones who are vulnerable and sensitive about the whole church experience.

winklebottom 11-25-2007 01:53 PM

I agree. I don't think crazyjoe was trying to be mean, I believe everyone wants to go where you feel comfortable in worship. It is just like some saints would rather go to a church that sings southern gospel songs instead of praise and worship in thier services. A "good fit" as the last poster said. Personally, I enjoy having all races represented, But....that would be in a perfect world...

Monkeyman 11-25-2007 05:02 PM

I have NEVER looked for a church based on it's cultural make-up, in fact, it never has crossed my mind, nope, I don't get it at all.

Bro Epley, I appreciate you, although we stand eye to eye, (he he) I could never fill your shoes!!!

pelathais 11-25-2007 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 310824)
I have NEVER looked for a church based on it's cultural make-up, in fact, it never has crossed my mind, nope, I don't get it at all.

What about the opposite? Have you ever been told that you don't "belong" in a particular church because of cultural and/or racial considerations?

Monkeyman 11-25-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 310850)
What about the opposite? Have you ever been told that you don't "belong" in a particular church because of cultural and/or racial considerations?

Thankfully, no. Yet, I do recall touring with a multi-racial youth choir and feeling something different in my spirit. When ALL of the minorities were herded together to stay in 1 household, I understood. Not a good feeling and I am so thankful that there have been men & women of God to stand for TRUTH and AGAINST racisim in the church.
Remember bro, I am a hispanic living in New Brunswick, if anyone has had the opportunity to experience racism it is I, yet, thankfully I have not while I have been here. (In the church that is)

Steve Epley 11-25-2007 06:22 PM

I used to visit quite regularly Bishop Boyd's church in Nashville when we lived in the area particularly on Sunday nite after we got out. He was a prince of preachers. When I would come in he would tell them here comes my 'full-blood brother' and smile real big. I have never understood preacher or saint with racial prejudices from any side. The NEW BIRTH makes all races my brother. ONLY ONE race in Christ and that is the chosen-royal generation and nation.

crazyjoe 11-25-2007 08:18 PM

...thank you pelathais and winklebottom for understanding.... I'm sorry I'm not as perfect as monkeyman and epley....I don't have a predjudice or racist bone in my body...just looking for a place where I would be comfortable....there are reasons that certain churches are 50-99% the same racial background....racism and predjudice have nothing to do with the lack of racial diversity....

winklebottom 11-26-2007 08:58 AM

some people enjoy stirring things up on these threads....good luck in your search

Monkeyman 11-26-2007 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyjoe (Post 310970)
...thank you pelathais and winklebottom for understanding.... I'm sorry I'm not as perfect as monkeyman and epley....I don't have a predjudice or racist bone in my body...just looking for a place where I would be comfortable....there are reasons that certain churches are 50-99% the same racial background....racism and predjudice have nothing to do with the lack of racial diversity....

Haaaa, that right there is fuuunny man! Please don't ask my wife, she will tell you different! I guess the only thing that we will agree on bro is In-N-Out, I get my double double in 4 weeks! We just think different bro, that's cool. Be blessed...

Monkeyman 11-26-2007 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by winklebottom (Post 311172)
some people enjoy stirring things up on these threads....good luck in your search

I think if you have read my posts while on AFF and NFCF, I am not too much of a pot stirrer, this just threw me so I questioned it, that is all. I guess I have never read, "looking for a white church"before, its cool...carry on.


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