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LordChocolate 11-20-2007 07:49 PM

Where are all of the conservatives?
 
On this forum there seem to be more libs than cons. I am more moderate and I would like to read the conservative side of things more often. I like seeing the posts from coonskinner and bro epley. I just don't know who the other conservatives are. By conservative, I mean doing your best to hold to the old paths without being angry about it.

Mrs. LPW 11-20-2007 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LordChocolate (Post 306984)
On this forum there seem to be more libs than cons. I am more moderate and I would like to read the conservative side of things more often. I like seeing the posts from coonskinner and bro epley. I just don't know who the other conservatives are. By conservative, I mean doing your best to hold to the old paths without being angry about it.

I haven't been here very long compared to some posters... but from what I've seen, the conservatives on here rarely bother to voice their opinions, I'm not sure if that's because they want to be a friend to everyone without offending, or if they aren't sure of what they believe and are a little timid to start talking about things for fear they may be "out talked" by the "libs"... (that ought to get a response :stirpot )

For the record I'm a moderately conservative... and I don't bother with some threads because I don't want to waste my brain power.

TalkLady 11-20-2007 08:00 PM

Some of the more conservatives from the faithchildforum board are now at the Good News Cafe and probably other boards.

http://www.goodnewscafe.net/forums/

Ron 11-20-2007 08:02 PM

Look at some of the threads and posts here lately and you will understand why!

JMHO

HeavenlyOne 11-20-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TalkLady2 (Post 306992)
Some of the more conservatives from the faithchildforum board are now at the Good News Cafe and probably other boards.

http://www.goodnewscafe.net/forums/

Umm...there are very few people from the GNC who post here, and I can't think of anyone who posts there and used to post at FCF without continuing to post here. I've been a member of both forums for over 5 years now.

Sister Alvear 11-20-2007 08:09 PM

I am considered conservative so they say...go to my pictures and decide. I never think of myself being anything except a christian..I have never like titles and nicks.

meBNme 11-20-2007 09:03 PM

Ive always thought I was very concervative. But after being on here, I have come to ralize that there DEFFINATLY are people who are on the radical extreme right who are put into the "concervative" or "UC" catagory.

Within THAT catagory I would be a little right of center, but personaly I think some of those extremeist's are just a little nuts.

There seem to be WAY MORE "libs" here than concervatives.

But then, it also seems that some of the most extremeist types want to call themselves "moderates"

Kinda like Hitlary Clinton. Ive heard her called a "moderate" by some of the leftwing nuts. If Hitlary is moderate, I am Spiderman.

ChTatum 11-20-2007 09:16 PM

I am conservative.

AmazingGrace 11-20-2007 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 307045)
I am conservative.

Ok Santa! We believe you!

Yes there are many conservatives here and some post often, 2 are on vacation and some just show up when they want... There are actually a few and I agree with what HO said about GNC... I was a part of all 3 also and these same are here now who were around then. They may post there but most of them post here also... and another thing... some have different nics on here than there and some are clueless as to who they are :)

RandyWayne 11-20-2007 09:22 PM

I voted for Alan Keys (last election during the primaries) and listen to Rush..... That makes me a right-wing loony in many peoples eyes.

Praxeas 11-20-2007 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LordChocolate (Post 306984)
On this forum there seem to be more libs than cons. I am more moderate and I would like to read the conservative side of things more often. I like seeing the posts from coonskinner and bro epley. I just don't know who the other conservatives are. By conservative, I mean doing your best to hold to the old paths without being angry about it.

ROFL...TROLL TROLL TROLL :donuts

Praxeas 11-20-2007 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ms. LPW (Post 306990)
I haven't been here very long compared to some posters... but from what I've seen, the conservatives on here rarely bother to voice their opinions, I'm not sure if that's because they want to be a friend to everyone without offending, or if they aren't sure of what they believe and are a little timid to start talking about things for fear they may be "out talked" by the "libs"... (that ought to get a response :stirpot )

For the record I'm a moderately conservative... and I don't bother with some threads because I don't want to waste my brain power.

Im conservatively moderate...nice to meetcha

ChTatum 11-20-2007 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 307047)
Ok Santa! We believe you!

Yes there are many conservatives here and some post often, 2 are on vacation and some just show up when they want... There are actually a few and I agree with what HO said about GNC... I was a part of all 3 also and these same are here now who were around then. They may post there but most of them post here also... and another thing... some have different nics on here than there and some are clueless as to who they are :)

"Conservative" is a very subjective term.:bubble

Praxeas 11-20-2007 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 307045)
I am conservative.

That's not what Mrs Claus says

AmazingGrace 11-20-2007 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChTatum (Post 307053)
"Conservative" is a very subjective term.:bubble

Yes indeed it tis!!!! :woohoo

meBNme 11-20-2007 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ms. LPW (Post 306990)
I haven't been here very long compared to some posters... but from what I've seen, the conservatives on here rarely bother to voice their opinions, I'm not sure if that's because they want to be a friend to everyone without offending, or if they aren't sure of what they believe and are a little timid to start talking about things for fear they may be "out talked" by the "libs"... (that ought to get a response :stirpot )

For the record I'm a moderately conservative... and I don't bother with some threads because I don't want to waste my brain power.

I can vouch for this^^^

I have posted a few conservative views, only to be pounced on in somewhat the same manner that I have seen in secular forums by unbelievers.

The instance I am thinking about, I was simply stating my own beliefs, about TV and why I personally believe them, in response to a question on the subject.
I was challenged to "prove my point" and "Why are you so inconsistent?" and "Why cant you just let others make their own choices" and "why do all you conservatives push your beliefs on others" etc.

I wasn't preaching to anyone, or telling anyone they were "wrong" or they should change. I was simply stating why I feel the way I do about TV.

But I sure had several folks chomping at the bit to do the very things they were accusing me of doing.

I have seen A LOT of libs bashing the more conservative types, and complaining about how "UC's" are so preachy and "in your face". But I can't remember more than one time Ive seen the "UC's" doing that.
I'm not saying it doesnt happen, not at all, I'm just saying what I have seen in the few weeks I have been here.

Its like people do not want anyone to tell them they should be stricter on THEIR standards/beliefs, but some of them sure are quick to tell everyone else how they are wrong and should let up on THEIR beliefs/standards.

Whats up with that?

Praxeas 11-20-2007 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 307048)
I voted for Alan Keys (last election during the primaries) and listen to Rush..... That makes me a right-wing loony in many peoples eyes.

I'm not sure what I am....I voted for Bush because I thought the other guys were bigger idiots....only to find out you can't really compare them....and I listen to Michael Savage and Jerry Doyle...both independent conservatives...one very entertaining and a total ego maniac and the other a little less entertaining but makes a lot of sense

RandyWayne 11-20-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 307058)
I'm not sure what I am....I voted for Bush because I thought the other guys were bigger idiots....only to find out you can't really compare them....and I listen to Michael Savage and Jerry Doyle...both independent conservatives...one very entertaining and a total ego maniac and the other a little less entertaining but makes a lot of sense

I have to admit that I voted for Bush as a vote against first Gore, and again against Kerry. I have been disappointed with Bush on so many levels but if either of the two votes were held again, it would still be Bush over those two idiots.

meBNme 11-20-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 307058)
I'm not sure what I am....I voted for Bush because I thought the other guys were bigger idiots....only to find out you can't really compare them....and I listen to Michael Savage and Jerry Doyle...both independent conservatives...one very entertaining and a total ego maniac and the other a little less entertaining but makes a lot of sense

LOL, Yeah I'm with you on the Bush bit.
I also listen to savage sometimes, but like Rush and Mark levin better.

Politically, and socially I am deffinatly right wing.
Give me a MUCH smaller government, more personal freedom, the rights to bear arms for all law abiding citizens who want them, and the right to do what I wish with my property (within reason) and a fair tax, and I would be MUCH happier with our government.

Hoovie 11-20-2007 09:39 PM

I am mostly an Ultra Con.

To the right of Pat Buchanan in politics.

To the right of UPC on marrige and family planning issues.

To the right of most in the culture.

And just right on a host of other issues.

I am here... what was the question again??

Praxeas 11-20-2007 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by meBNme (Post 307064)
LOL, Yeah I'm with you on the Bush bit.
I also listen to savage sometimes, but like Rush and Mark levin better.

Politically, and socially I am deffinatly right wing.
Give me a MUCH smaller government, more personal freedom, the rights to bear arms for all law abiding citizens who want them, and the right to do what I wish with my property (within reason) and a fair tax, and I would be MUCH happier with our government.

Those days are gone. We've got a much bigger debt than any liberal has ever gotten us into....sigh

Sam 11-20-2007 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 307063)
I have to admit that I voted for Bush as a vote against first Gore, and again against Kerry. I have been disappointed with Bush on so many levels but if either of the two votes were held again, it would still be Bush over those two idiots.

Agreed.
It's sad that most of our votes are actually a vote against someone and not a vote for someone. We think we have to chose the lesser of two evils. We think a vote for some "unknown" or person who doesn't have a chance of getting into office is just about a "wasted" vote when we should actually let our vote count as "against" someone.

HeavenlyOne 11-20-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by meBNme (Post 307057)
I can vouch for this^^^

I have posted a few conservative views, only to be pounced on in somewhat the same manner that I have seen in secular forums by unbelievers.

The instance I am thinking about, I was simply stating my own beliefs, about TV and why I personally believe them, in response to a question on the subject.
I was challenged to "prove my point" and "Why are you so inconsistent?" and "Why cant you just let others make their own choices" and "why do all you conservatives push your beliefs on others" etc.

I wasn't preaching to anyone, or telling anyone they were "wrong" or they should change. I was simply stating why I feel the way I do about TV.

But I sure had several folks chomping at the bit to do the very things they were accusing me of doing.

I have seen A LOT of libs bashing the more conservative types, and complaining about how "UC's" are so preachy and "in your face". But I can't remember more than one time Ive seen the "UC's" doing that.
I'm not saying it doesnt happen, not at all, I'm just saying what I have seen in the few weeks I have been here.

Its like people do not want anyone to tell them they should be stricter on THEIR standards/beliefs, but some of them sure are quick to tell everyone else how they are wrong and should let up on THEIR beliefs/standards.

Whats up with that?

Here's something to think about.

Why is it that when people are banned, it's mostly the conservatives who take that vacation?

It's the same way on the GNC. When someone is banned, it's usually a conservative.

Hmmmm......

meBNme 11-20-2007 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 307063)
I have to admit that I voted for Bush as a vote against first Gore, and again against Kerry. I have been disappointed with Bush on so many levels but if either of the two votes were held again, it would still be Bush over those two idiots.


This makes me think of the whole "to vote or not to vote" issue.

There are many things I don't like about Bush, but I would much rather have him than ANY of the current dem candidates, or the ones he went up against in the last two elections.

But what if Juliani got the repub nomination? He "says" he doesn't "personally" agree with abortion, but will not support laws that restrict others from having them. So he is labeled pro abortion.
Now yes, I loath abortion, and I would never vote FOR him (or others) because of that stance.
But the dem candidates are pro abortion too, and anti everything I believe in, and for everything I am against.
So I feel it is my personal duty as a Christian, to do what I can to prevent the worst candidate from getting the presidency. If that means voting against them by helping put the other guy in office, then so be it.

Better to have someone with one bad point, than another with ALL bad points, including the abortion issue.

To sit back and not vote, honestly seems like neglecting ones personal beliefs and their stand for those beliefs to me.

HeavenlyOne 11-20-2007 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 307066)
I am mostly an Ultra Con.

To the right of Pat Buchanan in politics.

To the right of UPC on marrige and family planning issues.

To the right of most in the culture.

And just right on a host of other issues.

I am here... what was the question again??

You have been on TV, therefore, you are as liberal as they come.

That means, I'm more Apostolic than you are. LOL!

Thad 11-20-2007 09:48 PM

Epley- He has indeed been avoiding the forum (not sure why but plan to find out)

Old Path and another member (i wont say the name) have been upset that a certain Lib has not been kicked off the forum

Coon and Steadfast- upset over the LB thread


TRIPPY, Trouvere and Amazing grace are ultra cons and they have been around


There have been quite a few ultra cons posting on the LB thread.

mizpeh 11-20-2007 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 307069)
Here's something to think about.

Why is it that when people are banned, it's mostly the conservatives who take that vacation?

It's the same way on the GNC. When someone is banned, it's usually a conservative.

Hmmmm......

DA has taken quite a few vacations. He isn't conservative.

Hoovie 11-20-2007 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 307072)
You have been on TV, therefore, you are as liberal as they come.

That means, I'm more Apostolic than you are. LOL!

No I'm OKAY bout that. It was unsolicited.:bubble

meBNme 11-20-2007 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 307069)
Here's something to think about.

Why is it that when people are banned, it's mostly the conservatives who take that vacation?

It's the same way on the GNC. When someone is banned, it's usually a conservative.

Hmmmm......

I'm not saying that there are no concervative nut jobs and extreme radicals.
There certainly are those, and maybe those few take things to the extreme more than others. (Just as there are on both sides.)

I am just saying that there are a lot of the left wing libs who may not be bad enough to be banned, but they certainly like pushing limits and buttons, and pitching a fit when the nut job cons act up.

Hoovie 11-20-2007 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Thad (Post 307073)
Epley- He has indeed been avoiding the forum (not sure why but plan to find out)

Old Path and another member (i wont say the name) have been upset that a certain Lib has not been kicked off the forum

Coon and Steadfast- upset over the LB thread


TRIPPY, Trouvere and Amazing grace are ultra cons and they have been around


There have been quite a few ultra cons posting on the LB thread.

Hey I kinda like Danny boy regardless what they say on the Lip Balm thread.

AmazingGrace 11-20-2007 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Thad (Post 307073)
Epley- He has indeed been avoiding the forum (not sure why but plan to find out)

Old Path and another member (i wont say the name) have been upset that a certain Lib has not been kicked off the forum

Coon and Steadfast- upset over the LB thread


TRIPPY, Trouvere and Amazing grace are ultra cons and they have been around


There have been quite a few ultra cons posting on the LB thread.


Epley is on vacation! He posted a goodbye thread when he was leaving I believe on Sat night

AmazingGrace 11-20-2007 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 307077)
Hey I kinda like Danny boy regardless what they say on the Lip Balm thread.

:ursofunny:ursofunny

Sam 11-20-2007 09:56 PM

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I'm a conservative.

I believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God.

I believe in one God who has revealed Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

I believe that the Son of God was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, died on the cross for the sins of the world, was buried, rose again, and ascended into Heaven where He is seated at the right hand of the Father.

I believe that the wages of sin is death and the gift of God is eternal life.

I believe all us humans need a Savior because of our sin and that we can by no means save ourselves.

I believe salvation is by grace through faith.

I believe that a person is justified (declared righteous and right with God) by faith.

I believe that all justified/regenerated/saved people are indwelt by the Holy Spirit.

I believe that every child of God has the imputed righteousness of Christ and that Christ is our holiness/sanctification.

I believe that Jesus Christ is coming again.

These are the fundamentals of our faith as taught and practiced by the Apostles and are considered to be "conservative."

I am
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship

Does this qualify me as a Conservative?

Thad 11-20-2007 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 307077)
Hey I kinda like Danny boy regardless what they say on the Lip Balm thread.


danny Boy ??

Thad 11-20-2007 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace (Post 307078)
Epley is on vacation! He posted a goodbye thread when he was leaving I believe on Sat night


Noooo even before the vacation something was amiss. I know Epley been posting with him for 5 years AG. he's pulled back a lot - there's an axe to grind but you don't see it




.

Thad 11-20-2007 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 307080)
I'm a conservative.

I believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God.

I believe in one God who has revealed Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

I believe that the Son of God was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, died on the cross for the sins of the world, was buried, rose again, and ascended into Heaven where He is seated at the right hand of the Father.

I believe that the wages of sin is death and the gift of God is eternal life.

I believe all us humans need a Savior because of our sin and that we can by no means save ourselves.

I believe salvation is by grace through faith.

I believe that a person is justified (declared righteous and right with God) by faith.

I believe that all justified/regenerated/saved people are indwelt by the Holy Spirit.

I believe that every child of God has the imputed righteousness of Christ and that Christ is our holiness/sanctification.

I believe that Jesus Christ is coming again.

These are the fundamentals of our faith as taught and practiced by the Apostles and are considered to be "conservative."

I am
Apostolic in doctrine
Pentecostal in experience
Charismatic in practice
Non-denominational in affiliation
Inter-denominational in fellowship

Does this qualify me as a Conservative?

Sam face it, you're a Liberal and you'll always be a liberal :tease
you don't believe baptism is valid

HeavenlyOne 11-20-2007 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 307074)
DA has taken quite a few vacations. He isn't conservative.

EB has taken more vacations. He is.

There are several others defined as conservative who have been permanently banned from here. The same with the GNC as well.

HeavenlyOne 11-20-2007 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by meBNme (Post 307076)
I'm not saying that there are no concervative nut jobs and extreme radicals.
There certainly are those, and maybe those few take things to the extreme more than others. (Just as there are on both sides.)

I am just saying that there are a lot of the left wing libs who may not be bad enough to be banned, but they certainly like pushing limits and buttons, and pitching a fit when the nut job cons act up.

I agree with you, but the same can be said of the other side as well.

Nut job cons.......ROFL!!!

AmazingGrace 11-20-2007 10:00 PM

Ya know I guess this is the best place to post this. Had a really cute thing happen today for my oldest. She has been having a fit all week because we are trying to get her brother into private school and she has flip flopped on wanting and not wanting to go so we decided to leave her for now... Well I guess this week in gym she was having a hard time and then her coach got onto her because she wouldnt change out (she wears her full skirt with shorts under it) when the guys and girls had gym for the first time together this week. He was pretty tough on her and she got so upset.

Today we had to go to court for her truancy thing (other thread but yea) because of her dr being in hospital was unable to obtain notes etc (so some dont think I let my kid skip school!LOL) so her court appearance took forever and we got her to school 10 min after gym started... she got in there and everyone of her friends were wearing skirts with shorts on under them!!! They had all worn skirts to school today because they were afraid she would go ahead and leave because of the pressure from coach and they didnt want her to leave!!!

One of her friends from church told me about this tonight at church... My kiddo is amazing! They all are! Sometimes we dont have to be loud and scream it out to be a witness. Live the life and God will shine thru!

Sam 11-20-2007 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Thad (Post 307084)
Sam face it, you're a Liberal and you'll always be a liberal :tease
you don't believe baptism is valid

Now, Thad,
that's quite an accusation.


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