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bishoph 11-21-2007 12:35 PM

What year did UPCI First vote Against TV
 
In my research it appears that the first Vote was in 1977, however I read somewhere that they may have voted as early as 1955 or 1957. Does anyone have the facts on this?

RandyWayne 11-21-2007 01:58 PM

If any vote took place in the 50's it probably had more to do with radio.

SDG 11-21-2007 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 307657)
In my research it appears that the first Vote was in 1977, however I read somewhere that they may have voted as early as 1955 or 1957. Does anyone have the facts on this?

RevBuddy may have some more info as he has some insight to the few that voted to allow it ... it was earlier than '77....

Neck 11-21-2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 307783)
RevBuddy may have some more info as he has some insight to the few that voted to allow it ... it was earlier than '77....


I think it was 77 or 78. The actual voting. I know in 1975 GC in Ft. Worth they talked about it on the floor.

My dad stood up and made a statement...

Neck 11-21-2007 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 307783)
RevBuddy may have some more info as he has some insight to the few that voted to allow it ... it was earlier than '77....

Take a look under the Holiness article of faith in the following link. It was adopted in 1977 at the General Conference.

I am not sure about anything formal before 1977.

Look at the link for Video that was adopted in 1983.

Here is the link.

http://www.spiritualabuse.org/issues...ionpapers.html

Nahum 11-21-2007 02:40 PM

The year was AD 70.

Early Christians recognized that the acceptance of television would be the "Abomination of Desolation" Daniel wrote about. They fed all of the tv's to the lions and went and hid in the catacombs so they would never be tempted to view tv programming.

LordChocolate 11-21-2007 04:15 PM

1955

pelathais 11-21-2007 04:46 PM

There were a number of different resolutions presented over the years. The first one to pass involving television was (I think) 1955 as LC points out. This just dealt with ministers being prohibited to have a television in their homes. Then in 1977 the ban was placed upon using television for ministry or advertising.

The 1977 vote really shows the foresight of the proponents of the ban. In 1977, the ARPANET (precursor of the Internet) looked like this:

http://www.cybergeography.org/atlas/...1977_small.gif

Only a person of real vision could have seen that this simple and humble beginning would one day support streaming video of a man preaching his burden over important issues like wax tipped shoe laces and postings of notices ordering the inspection of the under garments of young ladies at youth camp.

StillStanding 11-21-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 307984)
There were a number of different resolutions presented over the years. The first one to pass involving television was (I think) 1955 as LC points out. This just dealt with ministers being prohibited to have a television in their homes. Then in 1977 the ban was placed upon using television for ministry or advertising.

The 1977 vote really shows the foresight of the proponents of the ban. In 1977, the ARPANET (precursor of the Internet) looked like this:

http://www.cybergeography.org/atlas/...1977_small.gif

Only a person of real vision could have seen that this simple and humble beginning would one day support streaming video of a man preaching his burden over important issues like wax tipped shoe laces and postings of notices ordering the inspection of the under garments of young ladies at youth camp.

Did Al Gore draw that? :D

RandyWayne 11-21-2007 04:48 PM

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The first one to pass involving television was (I think) 1955 as LC points out.
I could not imagine a television vote taking place in the 50's simply because there was so little on and so few HAD sets. I can't imagine it being an issue.
But..... a majority had a radio!

pelathais 11-21-2007 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 307990)
I could not imagine a television vote taking place in the 50's simply because there was so little on and so few HAD sets. I can't imagine it being an issue.
But..... a majority had a radio!

There was a famous discusion at the time. Some one asked, "What's the difference between radio and television?"

A familiar voice called out, "The same difference as looking at a naked woman and listening to one!"

The exchange was said to have been met with laughter. Some old timers used to repeat that story a lot back in the day.

Neck 11-21-2007 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 307984)
There were a number of different resolutions presented over the years. The first one to pass involving television was (I think) 1955 as LC points out. This just dealt with ministers being prohibited to have a television in their homes. Then in 1977 the ban was placed upon using television for ministry or advertising.

The 1977 vote really shows the foresight of the proponents of the ban. In 1977, the ARPANET (precursor of the Internet) looked like this:

http://www.cybergeography.org/atlas/...1977_small.gif

Only a person of real vision could have seen that this simple and humble beginning would one day support streaming video of a man preaching his burden over important issues like wax tipped shoe laces and postings of notices ordering the inspection of the under garments of young ladies at youth camp.

No it is all BGP, VOIP, Ethernet, SBC, Router, Switch, MPLS, 7 Layers of the OSI model.

I know I sell these solutions:

RandyWayne 11-21-2007 05:42 PM

Don't forget the 4 layers of the TCP model as well!

Or RIP v1 and v2, or OSPF. :)
Stubby?
Totally stubby?
Not so totally stubby?

Neck 11-21-2007 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 307990)
I could not imagine a television vote taking place in the 50's simply because there was so little on and so few HAD sets. I can't imagine it being an issue.
But..... a majority had a radio!

When Elvis hit the Ed Sullivan show in 1959 or so is when the TV hit the skids with preachers.

pelathais 11-21-2007 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt (Post 308020)
No it is all BGP, VOIP, Ethernet, SBC, Router, Switch, MPLS, 7 Layers of the OSI model.

I know I sell these solutions:

It's the message not the medium. You probably wear colored dress shirts too! :wacko

LordChocolate 11-21-2007 05:54 PM

Colored dress shirts? Have you no shame? We all know that none but the white shirted will see God. :donuts:hanky

Neck 11-21-2007 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 308033)
It's the message not the medium. You probably wear colored dress shirts too! :wacko

You have me pegged.....

With more bandwidth as I was stating.

Faster the message gets to the recipient.


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