Originally Posted by coksiw (Post 1602500)

Any snake handling Pentecostal here?

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1602494)

As if unitarianism is the better choice.

How come Jesus did not require the cross if he was born like any man and was only man? Sounds like God is a respector of persons.

The test of a doctrine is what it does with the cross. And unitarianism removes the truth of the cross, for if Jesus was not God incarnate, then he was like us with sin, regardless of who fathered him. And if being born of God and still being only human meant Jesus had no sin, then why did not God do that with all the human race since Adam instead of just him? It would have saved the suffering of the cross.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1602479)

Why? To some on here, the trinitarian view point or the oneness belief is the same god. They worship the same god we worship. Why would it matter if a belief is not exactly the same?

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus (Post 1602489)

Yes and no. They were not separate at the time so that was the formation of the catholic (universal) church, not the Roman Catholic Church. So ok, sure :)

Originally Posted by 1 God (Post 1602508)

the RCC and the CC are the same church. it is headquartered in Rome and always was from the beginning.

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus (Post 1602516)

Unfortunately, that is incorrect.

Originally Posted by 1 God (Post 1602508)

the RCC and the CC are the same church. it is headquartered in Rome and always was from the beginning.

Originally Posted by 1 God (Post 1602506)

Who is unitarian here?

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus (Post 1602468)

Actually, that is the Eastern Orthodox creed (of which I am now a member) - the Catholics added the Filioque later on.

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1602637)

Serious question:

Do you really believe that prayer to dead saints, hymns to Mary, and veneration of icons represent what Jesus and the apostles practiced, that such is the same faith and practice they had?