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Evang.Benincasa 12-04-2021 11:59 AM

Re: Car Crashes Through a Parade in Wisconsin?
 
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1606580)
Iím going to have to look up who Darrell Brooks is. Iím sorry.

What?

Brother, this thread you are currently posting in, is all about him.

Watch the videos.

Evang.Benincasa 12-04-2021 12:02 PM

Re: Car Crashes Through a Parade in Wisconsin?
 
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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1606579)
In reference to the bolded statement youíre saying that we shouldnít hold the old covenant laws over to the new covenant. Just to be clear the government is who is doing so. And you think itís horribly wrong.

I detect hypocrisy of biblical proportions. YOU believe in tithing, which is another of the old covenant laws. It is never endorsed after the crucifixion. YOU, and other preachers (not the government) are the ones who drag it forward, around the cross and load it on the backs of the sheeple like seasoned Pharisees who bore the wrath of our Savior.

WOE unto you and the other ďhypocritesĒ that Jesus was so angry with. You are all about leaving the old covenant behind the cross . . .

Until it affects your pocketbook. Jesus called it the leaven of the Pharisees. The disciples thought he was speaking of bread. He enlightened them. No, I am talking about their hypocrisy.

What do you have to say for yourself?

Do you think the tithe doctrine is Jesus approved?

Iíd really appreciate an answer, instead of you ducking and running . . .

Like you ALWAYS do.

Well, I guess you earned the name Tithemaster. :lol

Evang.Benincasa 12-04-2021 12:06 PM

Re: Car Crashes Through a Parade in Wisconsin?
 
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1606581)
In todays standards, absolutely not!

I donít believe a preacher or minister should be rich or living high off the hog on the back on the church. If you have a calling for a specific ministry God will supply your needs. Understand Tithemeister that is my conviction Iím not going to debate you about what other preachers do.

You donít believe in accepting tithes?

Tithesmeister 12-04-2021 12:41 PM

Re: Car Crashes Through a Parade in Wisconsin?
 
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1606581)
In todays standards, absolutely not!

I donít believe a preacher or minister should be rich or living high off the hog on the back on the church. If you have a calling for a specific ministry God will supply your needs. Understand Tithemeister that is my conviction Iím not going to debate you about what other preachers do.

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1606584)
You donít believe in accepting tithes?

I know. Itís news to me IF he doesnít personally believe in accepting tithes as pastor. Iím pretty sure he has specifically said so in the past.

Aaaand Iím sure that tithing is an old covenant law.

Not to say that he couldnít repent from his wicked ways. Miracles still happen.

Nicodemus1968 12-04-2021 01:43 PM

Re: Car Crashes Through a Parade in Wisconsin?
 
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1606582)
What?

Brother, this thread you are currently posting in, is all about him.

Watch the videos.

The videos were not showing up.

I apologize for not knowing the gentlemen's name that this thread is about.
I also have not been keeping up with the news lately.

Nicodemus1968 12-04-2021 01:55 PM

Re: Car Crashes Through a Parade in Wisconsin?
 
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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1606585)
I know. Itís news to me IF he doesnít personally believe in accepting tithes as pastor. Iím pretty sure he has specifically said so in the past.

Aaaand Iím sure that tithing is an old covenant law.

Not to say that he couldnít repent from his wicked ways. Miracles still happen.

I do agree with Bro. Benincasa, you have definitely earned your forum name.

I have been consistent on my views with tithes on this forum, now I will say I have been looking at tithe and offering in a different way the last 6 months or so. Im not going to go into detail. I have said since the beginning I don't believe tithe is a heaven or hell issue. Ive also said if the church desires to give the pastor 10% of their finances that's is up to them. Ive also said I personally don't believe in a part time ministry, and like myself I have supported the pastor through my finances so that he didn't have to have a full time job.

Tithesmeister 12-04-2021 05:44 PM

Re: Car Crashes Through a Parade in Wisconsin?
 
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1606587)
I do agree with Bro. Benincasa, you have definitely earned your forum name.

Iím so glad you and EB can agree on something. I take it as a compliment from you both. The name means tithes teacher. Itís what I do.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1606587)
I have been consistent on my views with tithes on this forum,

Yes you have been consistent. I agree with you on that. Consistently wrong according to all available scripture but consistent nonetheless.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1606587)
now I will say I have been looking at tithe and offering in a different way the last 6 months or so. Im not going to go into detail. I have said since the beginning I don't believe tithe is a heaven or hell issue.

Sincere congratulations. It is important to have a heart that can be softened by the word of God.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1606587)
Ive also said if the church desires to give the pastor 10% of their finances that's is up to them.

I agree with you about this. If they want to give ten percent of their money to the pastor or their child or their local politician or whomever, that is their business. However the problem that I have is when the pastor twists the word of God and says he is entitled to ten percent of their money (which is NEVER tithed in the Bible anywhere). My problem you see is with false teaching. And it is SOMETIMES taught that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be saved unless they tithe.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1606587)
Ive also said I personally don't believe in a part time ministry,

You would obviously disagree with Paul on this subject if you are implying that a pastor or other minister should not hold a secular job.

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1606587)
and like myself I have supported the pastor through my finances so that he didn't have to have a full time job.

It sounds like you were a victim of false teaching. Donít victimize others just because you were victimized.

I believe we would agree that ALL drunkards are lost . Itís pretty easy to support that doctrine with scripture.

1Cor.6

[10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Drunkards shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Pretty straightforward. Itís there in black and white. Out of five listed sins being a drunkard will keep you out of the kingdom.

But what about preachers who steal money from their people that they are supposed to be serving?

What about pastors who covet the saints money soooo much that they have fabricated a whole doctrine to justify taking money from Jesusí very own church? It seems to be almost the same thing that provoked Jesus to take a whip and clean out the temple.

What about increasingly brazen pastors who contradict Jesus when He said salvation was a free gift, and they contend that it is impossible to be saved unless you pay them ten percent of your gross wage?

Well, thatís just gross! Aaaand itís also extortion!

So letís look at that verse again.

1Cor.6

[10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Pastors need to be very careful. Because, he that would be rich falls into many temptations. Including twisting scripture and teaching false doctrine.

I teach that thieves (even preachers who are stealing tithes) nor the covetous (even pastors who are coveting money to which they are not entitled) nor extortionists (even pastors who are extorting tithes from their members by telling them they will be lost unless they ďvoluntarilyĒ give them ten percent) are lost! Aaaand they need to be preached to on the subject.

But Iím not gonna preach or anything. :thumbsup

diakonos 12-04-2021 07:29 PM

Re: Car Crashes Through a Parade in Wisconsin?
 
This is now a tithe thread. Ok.

Tithesmeister 12-04-2021 07:40 PM

Re: Car Crashes Through a Parade in Wisconsin?
 
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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1606589)
This is now a tithe thread. Ok.

Iím glad you approve.

Evang.Benincasa 12-04-2021 08:07 PM

Re: Car Crashes Through a Parade in Wisconsin?
 
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Originally Posted by diakonos (Post 1606589)
This is now a tithe thread. Ok.

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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1606588)
The name means tithes teacher. Itís what I do.

He is an ecclesiastical one trick pony. :heeheehee

Hey Titheweaver, there is only about five people who post here. We all know your song. You think you might want to change up your play list.


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