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Tithesmeister 03-14-2021 02:38 PM

Re: Sons Inheriting Churches from Fathers $$$
 
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Originally Posted by leftcoast1 (Post 1601850)
None of the above.

Brother leftcoast1: If you don’t mind, could you respond to some of these allegations specifically?

Are you a pastor?

Dis you go to the installation service?

Did you aspire to pastor this church?

Did the membership vote him in as pastor?

Or did they have a new pastor installed regardless of their opinion?

I think these are all questions that deserve truthful answers.

It’s not okay to say that if God isn’t in it, then it will amount to nothing. The church in the New Testament didn’t say that. It was the Jewish leadership that said that. It’s definitely not a model for the church to follow IMHO.

leftcoast1 03-14-2021 02:44 PM

Re: Sons Inheriting Churches from Fathers $$$
 
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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1601851)
Brother leftcoast1: If you don’t mind, could you respond to some of these allegations specifically?

Are you a pastor?

Dis you go to the installation service?

Did you aspire to pastor this church?

Did the membership vote him in as pastor?

Or did they have a new pastor installed regardless of their opinion?

I think these are all questions that deserve truthful answers.

It’s not okay to say that if God isn’t in it, then it will amount to nothing. The church in the New Testament didn’t say that. It was the Jewish leadership that said that. It’s definitely not a model for the church to follow IMHO.

No to all of your questions.

As far as what the membership voted on, I’m assuming no.

Tithesmeister 03-14-2021 02:49 PM

Re: Sons Inheriting Churches from Fathers $$$
 
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Originally Posted by leftcoast1 (Post 1601852)
No to all of your questions.

As far as what the membership voted on, I’m assuming no.

TJJJ?

TJJJ 03-14-2021 05:25 PM

Re: Sons Inheriting Churches from Fathers $$$
 
Sounds good. Apparently lefty just woke up, not knowing anything about La Grande except what..... someone told him, researched James P, that many dont even know exists, and began a thread?

Coincidence? I think not.


The charges he brings about that assembly are false though. There are good men that are on the board, the church is having good solid growth, people are getting the HG, sounds like God is pleased with the transition...

Is lefty going to withdraw his false statements about the assembly and J Parker practicing nepotism?

Random......

"Snort...."

Tithesmeister 03-14-2021 05:38 PM

Re: Sons Inheriting Churches from Fathers $$$
 
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Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1601856)
Sounds good. Apparently lefty just woke up, not knowing anything about La Grande except what..... someone told him, researched James P, that many dont even know exists, and began a thread?

Coincidence? I think not.


The charges he brings about that assembly are false though. There are good men that are on the board, the church is having good solid growth, people are getting the HG, sounds like God is pleased with the transition...

Is lefty going to withdraw his false statements about the assembly and J Parker practicing nepotism?

Random......

"Snort...."

Brother,

You said that leftcoast1 went to the meeting. He says that he didn’t.

You said that he had designs to be pastor the church. He denies having such aspirations.

You say he brought false accusations of nepotism? Well, I don’t hear anybody denying that his son was installed as pastor, or even that he had something to do with it. Which leans heavily towards nepotism.

You pretended to know what was going on. Then you checked it out. It seems that your credibility might be a bit weak.

What do you have to say for yourself?

Bro Flame 03-15-2021 09:11 AM

Re: Sons Inheriting Churches from Fathers $$$
 
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Originally Posted by navygoat1998 (Post 1601791)
Would that have been the Pentecostals of Gainesville?

I don't know of that church, so no it wasn't them.

Bro Flame 03-15-2021 09:12 AM

Re: Sons Inheriting Churches from Fathers $$$
 
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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1601798)
But that was only because none of his sons wanted the church.

Are you talking about the church I spoke of in Florida? That elder and his wife don't have any sons that I'm aware of. I know they have two daughters and they're married to evangelists that came from other churches.

Originalist 03-15-2021 09:28 AM

Re: Sons Inheriting Churches from Fathers $$$
 
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1601836)
Because he is the established leader of that assembly.


And this bestows ownership and dictatorial powers upon him? How is this Biblical?

Originalist 03-15-2021 09:29 AM

Re: Sons Inheriting Churches from Fathers $$$
 
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Originally Posted by Bro Flame (Post 1601867)
Are you talking about the church I spoke of in Florida? That elder and his wife don't have any sons that I'm aware of. I know they have two daughters and they're married to evangelists that came from other churches.


The church I am referring to is about 30 minutes south of the one you are talking about.

Originalist 03-15-2021 09:34 AM

Re: Sons Inheriting Churches from Fathers $$$
 
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1601837)
One thing you and everyone else has to realize. Many of those saints there have been there for years. I believe when a Bro. Parker was given the church to Pastor back in 1988 or so, there was only 10-20 people. I believe there around 100 or more. They have multiple generations in the church. I’m not saying this just about you, yet, there are still churches, that still have saints, that still have trust in their Pastor or their leaders.

Having trust in one's pastors and elders is not in question. What is in question is the wisdom in church members adopting a dictatorial/autocratic/ authoritarian form of government for their assembly. In my opinion, the Southern Baptist model is not perfect, but far better than anything I have seen in the Apostolic ranks. It is a constitutional form of government based on the separation of powers.


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