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Michael The Disciple 04-08-2021 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968 (Post 1602300)
Why would he be a man? The cross was completed, the humanity was the perfect sacrifice.

Im stunned. How many "Apostolics" think Jesus is no longer a man?

TGBTG 04-08-2021 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1602304)
Im stunned. How many "Apostolics" think Jesus is no longer a man?

So am I...if you claim to be oneness and can’t flat out say or believe that Jesus is the Son of God, don’t be surprised if trinitarians don’t even listen to anything you have to say about the topic of Godhead.

Jesus is the Son of God is the most basic tenet of our faith. Oneness and trinitarians believe this.

Explaining how Jesus is the son of God is where the differences are. And some people have come to the conclusion that being able to explain the “how” is a heaven/hell issue.

Originalist 04-08-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG (Post 1602303)
Wow!...not a simple yes or no response to the question?

Yeah, you shouldn’t worry about trinitarians if you can’t even give a straight answer regarding if Jesus is the son of God.

Let me help you out:

Rev 2:8
And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

Notice Jesus called himself the son of God many years after his resurrection.
The fact that you can’t just straight out say Jesus is the son of God is honestly baffling.
Using the same standard you used to judge the trinitarians, you may be worshipping a different God...hahaha

More than a few on our side will even go so far as to eliminate the words of songs that refer to Jesus as the Son of God. Doctrinal insecurity. Truthfully, I do not think they really understand our doctrine.

Tithesmeister 04-08-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1602306)
More than a few on our side will even go so far as to eliminate the words of songs that refer to Jesus as the Son of God. Doctrinal insecurity. Truthfully, I do not think they really understand our doctrine.

The truth of the matter is that we are often more focused on explaining how the trinitarians are wrong, than understanding and defending our own doctrine. We seem to take comfort in finding fault with the doctrine of others, whichever side of the fence we fall on. It is somewhat reminiscent of the plank in the eye allegory.

I have absolutely listened to a trinitarian explain the trinity almost verbatim to the method the general superintendent of the UPCI explained oneness in the debate.

I was shocked!

TGBTG 04-08-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1602307)
The truth of the matter is that we are often more focused on explaining how the trinitarians are wrong, than understanding and defending our own doctrine. We seem to take comfort in finding fault with the doctrine of others, whichever side of the fence we fall on. It is somewhat reminiscent of the plank in the eye allegory.

I have absolutely listened to a trinitarian explain the trinity almost verbatim to the method the general superintendent of the UPCI explained oneness in the debate.

I was shocked!

This!!

TGBTG 04-08-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1602306)
More than a few on our side will even go so far as to eliminate the words of songs that refer to Jesus as the Son of God. Doctrinal insecurity. Truthfully, I do not think they really understand our doctrine.

Might as well remove it from the scriptures..haha

Nicodemus1968 04-08-2021 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1602302)
Allow me to make it simple, if I may. Yes or no question:


Do you believe Jesus is currently the Son of God?

It is not a complicated question. A one word answer will be best.

No.

I believe Jesus is God.

Simple as that.

Tithesmeister 04-08-2021 02:33 PM

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I’m gonna make it even easier.
This is Paul, after “seeing the Light”.

Acts.9

[20] And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

Nicodemus1968 04-08-2021 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1602304)
Im stunned. How many "Apostolics" think Jesus is no longer a man?

Why would God be a man?

Nicodemus1968 04-08-2021 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tithesmeister (Post 1602311)
I’m gonna make it even easier.
This is Paul, after “seeing the Light”.

Acts.9

[20] And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

What does son refer to?


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