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Godsdrummer 11-25-2016 08:34 AM

Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word
 
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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1456949)
The concern was never our faith but trying to make the bible look stupid.

But if that's not your intention as you seemingly claim, not sure though since you mentioned our faith, ... the way to tell a true prophet is to see if they direct you to genuinely serve God, and not themselves by the way, while succeeding in foretelling the future.

This is the third time I have read this post, and it still gets me. What I mean is how people carry around a term and pass it on to others and it sticks with out anyone really checking the term or meaning out.

The term prophet should be understood by the vast examples of a prophet in the OT, yet it seems we cannot get beyond thinking of a prophet as a fortune teller.

Paul best defines a prophet in Corinthians 14.
But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. All future foretelling of OT prophecy that were not conditional were those foretelling of Messiah. All the rest were conditional, that these things would come upon them if they refused to repent.

Godsdrummer 11-25-2016 08:47 AM

Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word
 
As with Mikes quoting of Deut. 13, prophecy it not about the foretelling of future events as much as exhortation to serve God in truth. I think we put too much emphasis on the word Prophet and not enough on the meaning to, "speak a word from God". That edifies, exhorts, and comforts.

mfblume 11-25-2016 09:37 AM

Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word
 
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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer (Post 1457223)
This is the third time I have read this post, and it still gets me. What I mean is how people carry around a term and pass it on to others and it sticks with out anyone really checking the term or meaning out.

The term prophet should be understood by the vast examples of a prophet in the OT, yet it seems we cannot get beyond thinking of a prophet as a fortune teller.

Paul best defines a prophet in Corinthians 14.
But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. All future foretelling of OT prophecy that were not conditional were those foretelling of Messiah. All the rest were conditional, that these things would come upon them if they refused to repent.

You are not reading everything. I already acknowledged it is simply being a prophet when you speak what God wants spoken. But the issue of THIS thread has been foretelling.

Timmy 11-25-2016 09:38 AM

Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word
 
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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer (Post 1457224)
As with Mikes quoting of Deut. 13, prophecy it not about the foretelling of future events as much as exhortation to serve God in truth. I think we put too much emphasis on the word Prophet and not enough on the meaning to, "speak a word from God". That edifies, exhorts, and comforts.

Good to see you, Loren. ;)

Would you agree with a definition of "prophet" as one who hears from God, in some form or another, and passes the message along to others, and that such a message from God may or may not include predictions of future events?

Timmy 11-25-2016 09:42 AM

Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word
 
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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1457120)
Purports? lol

What's funny about "purports"?

Timmy 11-25-2016 10:33 AM

Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word
 
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1457240)
Good to see you, Loren. ;)

Would you agree with a definition of "prophet" as one who hears from God, in some form or another, and passes the message along to others, and that such a message from God may or may not include predictions of future events?

I'd like to contrast this from a broader definition that my include things that don't literally originate from God for that moment, but rather are from the speaker's own mind but consistent with the Bible, and are encouragement, drawing people to God, perhaps a correction, etc. There is a place for that, I'm sure, but is it really only prophets that can do such things?

mfblume 11-25-2016 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer (Post 1457224)
As with Mikes quoting of Deut. 13, prophecy it not about the foretelling of future events as much as exhortation to serve God in truth. I think we put too much emphasis on the word Prophet and not enough on the meaning to, "speak a word from God". That edifies, exhorts, and comforts.

Again this thread is about prophets after making a prophetic announcement foretelling the future. Do you see that now? Actually prophecy is saying anything God directed one to say.

Evang.Benincasa 11-25-2016 03:41 PM

Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word
 
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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1457270)
Again this thread is about prophets after making a prophetic announcement foretelling the future. Do you see that now? Actually prophecy is saying anything God directed one to say.

Amen, like false prophets weren't false because they always dropped the watermelon. They were false because they were putting words into god's mouth. They claimed to speak for God, but spoke their own mind.

mfblume 11-25-2016 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1457275)

Amen, like false prophets weren't false because they always dropped the watermelon. They were false because they were putting words into god's mouth. They claimed to speak for God, but spoke their own mind.

Exactly :thumbsup

Godsdrummer 11-26-2016 01:30 PM

Re: Repentance after a Prophetic Word
 
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1457240)
Good to see you, Loren. ;)

Would you agree with a definition of "prophet" as one who hears from God, in some form or another, and passes the message along to others, and that such a message from God may or may not include predictions of future events?

I don't believe it includes predictions of future events, period. Read the OT prophets, they did not predict future events with the exception of those events that concerned the coming of Christ. To foretell a future event the future event must come to pass as originally foretold. It is not conditional. Prophecy edifies, builds up, exhorts, and comforts.
While many OT prophesies did come to pass, it was because when warned the people did not repent, thus the conditions were not kept.

Just my thoughts.


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