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Michael The Disciple 05-15-2020 05:25 AM

Re: Will you take the Corona Vaccine?
 
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Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1588016)
There is currently no vaccine. I doubt there will be one anytime in the next year. Nor is there any guarantee there will ever be one.

Just my speculation but I think they had one ready from the git go. Just waiting until the people are on their knees begging for it.

Michael The Disciple 05-15-2020 05:28 AM

Re: Will you take the Corona Vaccine?
 
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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1588013)
That does not mean it is going to be mandatory, though. Just the military used to administer it.

Is the military being used currently to administer vaccines? Have they ever before? We are so far gone as a society this doesn't even raise an eyebrow?

n david 05-15-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1588019)
The right question. What I hear is you will have to have proof you have taken it to buy and sell.

:hmmm

KeptByTheWord 05-15-2020 11:16 AM

Re: Will you take the Corona Vaccine?
 
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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1588014)
I want the Lord's computer chip, vaccine, or whatever counters the recent form of the mark this year, on my forehead as per Rev 14:1 two verses later than the mark.

Could you expound your thoughts on this a little more?

mfblume 05-15-2020 11:21 AM

Re: Will you take the Corona Vaccine?
 
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1588021)
Is the military being used currently to administer vaccines? Have they ever before? We are so far gone as a society this doesn't even raise an eyebrow?

Sure, we should raise an eyebrow and see what happens. But it did not say it would be mandatory. If it comes to do that, then it's certainly bad. But just because military is a involved does not mean it is mandatory. We had flooding up here in our region and military were used to place sandbags because they are at the disposal of being able to help and they're everywhere.

mfblume 05-15-2020 11:23 AM

Re: Will you take the Corona Vaccine?
 
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1588027)
Could you expound your thoughts on this a little more?

lol

I meant that whatever the mark is, the consistency of the interpretation of the symbol must be maintained between it and the seal of God in the foreheads. There is God's ways and the devil's ways. This is beast's (not antichrist's by the way) mark and the seal of God, and both go on the forehead. If the mark is a computer chip, then we must maintain consistency and say God's seal is a computer chip.

The mark changes every year. One year it's the Universal Product Code. Next Year it's the SSN. Then it's the computer RFID chip. Now it's a VACCINE of all things!

mfblume 05-15-2020 01:20 PM

Re: Will you take the Corona Vaccine?
 
Deut 6 says that the law of God would be as frontlets between the yes and bound to the hand. Some Jews literally put phylacteries on their forehead and hands.

God told Moses that people must love the Lord with heart, soul and might. Spirit soul, and body. And binding it to your forehead meant dedicating your will to obedience of God's law and the hand stood of committing your body to carry it out in your obedience.

Well, as Moses was getting this from God, Israel was below Mount Sinai committing idolatry with the IMAGE OF THE BEAST., A golden calf.

Satan had counterfeited the worship to God as worship to a beast. Satan has his answer to God's law. That is rebellion and symbolized by the mark of the beast in the forehead or hand, as opposed to God's law there.

You've actually got the entire Exodus pattern of events in Revelation, including the beast, its image and the mark. The Lamb's blood redeemed Israel out of Egypt and we read of that in Rev 5.

You've got the plagues similar to the Exodus wrath on Egypt.

And even the image of the beast being worshiped with satan's answer to God's law on theforehead and hand. And as Moses stood on Sinai and told those who were on the Lord's side to come to him, the 144,000 stand with the lamb on ZION. ANd as Moses told them to slay those who worshipped the image of he beast, and 3,000 "fell" in death that day, Rev 14 says that BABYLON IS FALLEN, while the 144,000 STOOD on ZION with the Lamb.

Exodus would end with Israel buildings temple in Jerusalem generations later, and Rev ends with the NEW Jerusalem, the bride in symbolic form, being established.

When you see this pattern in Exodus and Revelaiton, and then stop and think about a computer chip, vaccine or UPC code thought to be the mark, those things become quite ridiculous.

As the Law 's MARK (MARK is Greek for "ENGRAVING", as God ENGRAVED the law on stone) on the forehead and hand stood fo will and might committed to obey it, the devil's mark of the beast stood for will and might dedicated to rebellion and self exaltation and Israel dedicated themselves to serve CAESAR as their king rather than Christ in outright spiritual adultery against he Lord their groom who had come to the daughter of Zion. She adulterated with Rome, killed her groom and made the worst crime that could only be matched by the entire Church today denying Jesus as her groom .

Michael The Disciple 05-15-2020 02:27 PM

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When you see this pattern in Exodus and Revelaiton, and then stop and think about a computer chip, vaccine or UPC code thought to be the mark, those things become quite ridiculous.
Some think of everything in scripture to be ONLY what they would call "spiritual". It never manifests itself in actuality. While there is a "spiritual" reality there is also a literal reality.

For instance the Holy Ghost is a "seal" to the Christian to the day of redemption. We already have this seal. Nonetheless is the seal or "earnest" all there is to the kingdom of God? Of course not.

Lets look at this mark of the beast from the Bible.
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Rev. 13:11-18

11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
It looks like there are 2 beings addressed. The beast and false prophet. Actual events are ascribed to them. The beast dies or comes close to death and lives again. We find out later he rules over 10 kings.

The false prophet has amazing power to do miracles. Calls down fire from heaven. An image is made to the beast. The false prophet causes men to worship the beast and his image and to take the mark of the beast.

If it is true that the right hand and forehead really ONLY means disobedience to God why does God put these things in context of a future time? All sinners would have been said to have the mark of the beast! All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. All have transgressed the law of God.

And if the mark of the beast is ONLY disobedience to God apart from the context of Revelation NO SINNER COULD BE SAVED!

Those who take the mark of the beast are said to be doomed. If you have it you CANNOT be saved.

So if the mark of the beast merely symbolizes rebellion against God why would the false prophet have to CAUSE men to take it? They would ALREADY HAVE IT.

It seems obvious that the mark has to do with more than just Israel. Perhaps in hyperbole but nonetheless it is told us that all "kindreds, tongues, and nations" shall worship him.

So this mark IN CONTEXT has to do with all nations at the time just before the glorious coming of Jesus Christ where he will gather the nations to fight against him.

Michael The Disciple 05-15-2020 02:35 PM

Re: Will you take the Corona Vaccine?
 
I am not persuaded at this time we are at the mark of the beast. We dont see the man of sin manifest or the false prophet. We dont see him taking rule of ten nations. So this may not be the time. It could still yet be future.

But on the other hand things can happen rapidly. Just think how fast America went from being a free country to where we are now. Other prophetic events could be just around the corner.

It certainly seems to me the vaccine question is valid. If men are given a vaccine that modifys their DNA are they still men? Perhaps THIS is the reason one cannot be saved after having taken it?

TGBTG 05-15-2020 03:07 PM

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The prophecies in the book of revelation does not revolve around america or modern day Europe...until people begin to see that, Obama or future democrat president or pope or middle eastern warlord, etc is the antichrist..:happydance

Been there, got the t-shirt..next!!:thumbsup


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