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Jermyn Davidson 09-08-2010 03:53 PM

Personal Responsibility
 
I am having a hard time trying to factor in "personal repsonsibility" in making serious, life altering decisions.

It really, really frustrates and annoy me when things continue to go bad when I have the personal power to stop the madness so to speak.


So when it looks bad, and when things go bad, I am the one responsible for my life and my life's decisions.

What about the God Factor? No one cares about the God Factor when it comes to my personal repsonsibilites.


When is He responsible and when is it ever acceptable to "place the responsibility for bad" on God?

Never! I know this in my head and in my heart. Yet I am frustrated.


I am supposed to live my life in a way that pleases Him-- including listening to and obeying the godly advice of people like my Pastor.

So I am struggling financially-- still don't see a clear end in sight, and I think I am going to go against the advice I was given and seek employment overseas.


Of course it does not sit well to think this, type this or say this.

No, I haven't spoke with him about this.

But I am tired.

Nothing is working out in a way where I can make financial progress.

I can make it paycheck to paycheck.

Maybe in a few months, I'll be able to start putting some towards paying off my nearly 50K in debts-- but if the current trends continue, there will be some other crisis. If not immediately, it will come sooner or later, something to deter my financial well being.


It will be much quicker for me to pay off my debts and move on with my life in a half a year then to be continued to be saddled with this for however how long it takes.


Who will pay my bills?

Did God step in and stop my foreclosure?

How about the other financial stuff that is on my record-- where is He?

How come no one wants to forgive me of my debts? I've already forgiven so many people, so many times, concerning so many issues. I have forgiven them.

Where is the guy that gives the advice to not do this or not do that?

Maybe he wants to pay me bills for me.



Why do I feel like my hands are tied?

I feel like I am just plain lost and that my efforts to seek God and a closer relationship with Him are not only vain, but costly-- which makes what I'm doing, or maybe the way I am going about doing what I'm doing stupid and foolish.


Like I know God cares and loves. He provides. He blesses. He lifts up.

But if He is Sovereign, He took my job away knowing that I would not be able to pay off my debts without it. He knew that a couple years later that I would be somewhere in Florida, wondering how I could have messed my life up financially so badly when it could have been different if He had just let me keep my job. He knew that when I would seek advice on going overseas, I would be advised against itm, thus setting up my life for more financial ruin and even legal issues-- all of which could have been avoided.

Honestly, I really know how I can fix this even now or how to have avoided all of this from the get go.


It just makes me so frustrated and angry!

My life is all my fault-- it's all my responsibility, but what about God?

Where is HE in this?


Nothing makes any sense and I am just tired of all the BS that could have been avoided!

The last couple of years have been utter lunacy! Pretty much, I have failed at life, and that miserably.

He's God. I'm man. He's my Creator-- who am I to demand anything of Him. I won't.

I will tell Him that I am tired and I am done with going in this direction.

Cindy 09-08-2010 05:26 PM

Re: Personal Responsibility
 
What did God force you to do?

*AQuietPlace* 09-08-2010 05:27 PM

Re: Personal Responsibility
 
In what way would going overseas be a bad thing? Do you think it would be a bad thing?

Pragmatist 09-08-2010 06:31 PM

Re: Personal Responsibility
 
In my personal experience, I have found many pastors have trouble giving unbiased advice if it means you will be leaving their church.

Every move I have made, I know it was the will of God. One time, the pastor agreed with me, that it was the will of God. I greatly respect him for it.

Twice, I've had pastors strongly discourage me from moving when I knew it was the will of God. ( I moved anyway.)

I guess I'm saying do what you feel is right, if you're not violating God's laws.

canam 09-08-2010 06:38 PM

Re: Personal Responsibility
 
Dont sweat it bro, your hero Obama is gonna rescue you! he will pay your mortgage and give you free healthcare.I heard him say it, Yes i did :) :)

Michael 09-08-2010 06:52 PM

Re: Personal Responsibility
 
:banghead

Michael 09-08-2010 06:52 PM

Re: Personal Responsibility
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 960596)
Dont sweat it bro, your hero Obama is gonna rescue you! he will pay your mortgage and give you free healthcare.I heard him say it, Yes i did :) :)

:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny:ursofunny

Hoovie 09-08-2010 07:51 PM

Re: Personal Responsibility
 
Jermyn, you stated, , "I think I am going to go against the advice I was given and seek employment overseas.Of course it does not sit well to think this, type this or say this. No, I haven't spoke with him about this."

Who are we talking about here? A professional counselor?

coadie 09-08-2010 07:53 PM

Re: Personal Responsibility
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 960596)
Dont sweat it bro, your hero Obama is gonna rescue you! he will pay your mortgage and give you free healthcare.I heard him say it, Yes i did :) :)

He is the little messiah. He will make banks settle
bank debts at a discount

crakjak 09-08-2010 08:59 PM

Re: Personal Responsibility
 
I recommend Dave Ramsey's book, "Total Money Makeover", changing location will not change behavior. Dave gives the steps to get out of debt and to stay out, remember: "... if you will live like no one else..." to get out of debt then: "...you can live like no one else..." debt free. "Stop listening to your broke...friends..."

You can be debt free, no car payments, no house payments, and sooner that you might imagine. But it is hard for a while.


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