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And every Trinitarian believes Jesus Christ is God. Find me one who didn't in the past, or currently doesn't. It is sine qua non. One of the defining cornerstones of Trinitarian theology is that Jesus is God. You can't be a Trinitarian in any regular, traditional sense and not believe He is God at the same time. |
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When is this bearing of false witness going to end? Many Oneness people routinely caricaturize and misrepresent Trinitarian views on the Godhead and then proceed to critique and judge and condemn Trinitarians based off of those very caricatures and misrepresentations. It is a shame and not worthy of Christ. Do unto others that which you would have others do unto you. If you don't want people caricaturizing and misrepresenting what you believe, how about not doing so to others, just so you can have your strawman and beat it, too. |
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Ever: from the Greek word aion, meaning "an age, a cycle (of time), especially of the present age as contrasted with the future age, and of one of a series of ages stretching to infinity", the Greek (LXX) equivalent to the Hebrew word olam, meaning "an unbroken age, perpetuity of time, eternity" See: https://biblehub.com/greek/165.htm Compare to John 6:51 and John 6:58, which uses the same Greek word for "for ever" as in: "...he shall live for ever..." and "...shall live for ever..." respectively. See: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/6-51.htm https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/6-58.htm So, if anyone wants to argue aion should only mean "age" in John 8:35, then please convince us that aion doesn't mean "age" in John 6:51 and 58. Same with Matthew 6:13, that the kingdom, power, and glory of God the Father only endures for an "age". |
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Note, too, Isaiah 9:6-7. A son is given...and the son's kingdom shall have no end. It shall be established forever (in Hebrew olam, or in the LXX, aion referenced in post #94 above). See: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/9-7.htm and https://biblehub.com/sepd/isaiah/9.htm noting αἰῶνα in verse 7. |
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For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Dwelleth: κατοικεῖ (katoikei), meaning to settle down into, or permanently reside. Note, κατοικεῖ (katoikei) is conjugated as present indicative active, meaning, constant, continuous or uninterrupted activity. See: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/2-9.htm and https://biblehub.com/greek/2730.htm This means that the Godhead not only dwelt in Christ Jesus bodily, it currently still does as a constant, continuous or uninterrupted reality. |
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Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant... He is: from Greek ἐστίν (estin), meaning to be, also conjugated as present indicative active, meaning constant, continuous, or uninterrupted activity. Jesus was and still is, and always will be, the mediator of the New Covenant. Now, a mediator is not a mediator of one, but rather, of two (Galatians 3:20), which is to say, in this case, God, and man (1 Timothy 2:5). Jesus the same yesterday, today, and for ever (Hebrews 13:8, Greek for "for ever" is aion already referenced in post #94). See: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/hebrews/9-15.htm and https://biblehub.com/greek/1510.htm and https://biblehub.com/interlinear/hebrews/13-8.htm |
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I believe after his ascention the humanity was no longer needed. He rose that body from the grave, appeared to his disciples and others to prove his power of death, hell, and the grave. God is a Spirit, the son of God (humanity) was not God. The spirit inside Humanity was God, not the flesh. The flesh or the humanity was just a vessel to be the sacrifice. I don't believe in divine flesh, I don't believe Jesus is a physical, natural Jew up in heaven somewhere. |
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Allow me to plainly ask, in heaven right now what is God in the form of and what is Jesus in the form of?
Is there humanity in the spiritual dimension of Heaven? |
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