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Esther 11-28-2007 01:44 PM

Our Borders
 
A friend told me recently that the Mexican government came across the border to a ranchers home and stole two of his daughters. He said OUR government knows this and refuses to do anything about it, due to wanting good relations with Mexico.

Has anyone else heard anything like this?

Falla39 11-28-2007 02:27 PM

Our Borders
 
I have heard that what is happening in the natural is happening in

the Spirit. As the borders (boundries) of our USA are opened up for

all to freely come in, regardless whether friend or foe, Could it be

that as these boundries are being removed in government, move-

ments, families, homes, etc., is the enemy taking over territory that has

not been allowed for him to come in before!! Just get to wondering

about some things. But God has always seemed to have spared those

who stood for righteousness, and delivered them before the destruction.

It seemed that in the Bible before destruction of a city, a nation, etc.,

that there would be a "remnant" of people that had been hidden so that

a seed would be spared to carry on when the wicked were taken away.

When the messenger comes for us and our spirit leaves the body, what

is put into the ground! Is it not our remains! That which is left after the

most important part is gone. Then there is raiment, that in which we are

arrayed in. White linen. Righteousness of the saints. In the OT God

said "their righteousness shall be of me". We don't have any. But what He

puts around us or clothes us with, is HIS Righteousness. Does He array us

in white raiment and have His messengers (angels) carry us to be with Him

forever. Just some thoughts!

Blessings,

Falla39

HeavenlyOne 11-28-2007 02:29 PM

I'd think the liberal media would have picked up on that by now.

pelathais 11-28-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 313095)
A friend told me recently that the Mexican government came across the border to a ranchers home and stole two of his daughters. He said OUR government knows this and refuses to do anything about it, due to wanting good relations with Mexico.

Has anyone else heard anything like this?

There have been some rather troubling stand offs between US sheriff deputies and/or border agents and Mexican "troops" or police.

In one case some renegade Mexican troops crossed the border to support a drug shipment and leveled a .50 caliber machine gun on a couple of deputies armed only with hand guns. The point of intimidation was very clear.

But for a US citizen(s) to be kidnapped by Mexican "government" agents, or anyone crossing the border, I think that would be all over the news. If it did happen, it may have been Mexican citizens in the US who were taken by Mexican agents and so the US was not involved.

There's a very complex situation on that border, always has been. It used to be that Comanche and Apache raiders would use the border to hide from US troops and US forces went into Mexico on occasion to chase them down. At other times Mexican rebels or bandits robbed US towns along the border and sought sanctuary in Mexico. Pancho Villa was the greatest example of this.

Ever since their independence from Spain (1821) the northern territories of Mexico have been neglected by the ruling establishment in Mexico City. Most of the original Spanish settlers in the US Southwest never considered themselves "Mexicans" - something of a sore spot even today. The people comprised much of the army that fought for Texan independence and they fought along side American forces during the Mexican-American War. They call themselves "Spanish-Americans" as opposed to Mexican-Americans. As a kid I remember seeing fights break out over such niceties.

Now we are seeing a huge influx of Mexican citizens come into America. They are being encouraged by the government to immigrate and among many of them there is a historical revisionism that proclaims the American Southwest and the northern tier of Mexican states to be their "homeland" Anahuac.

Of course, the fact that they must migrate thousands of miles to reach their "homeland" is a paradox not worth troubling with. It is politically incorrect to say so, but many of these movements are racist in nature and a few actually promote the ethnic cleansing of the Americas.

They deny the fact that the Aztecs and other cultures oppressed their fellow native Americans. Instead they glorify the Aztec culture and claim that the rites of human sacrifice were a European invention.

In this climate, it's easy to see how someone can come up with a report about the daughters of a US rancher being kidnapped by the Mexican government. It's obviously not true, but a spark in the wrong place could create something of a firestorm in the situation along the border.

Esther 11-28-2007 03:26 PM

I was told it was tied to the drug lords.

Esther 11-28-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 313181)
I'd think the liberal media would have picked up on that by now.

Your confidence in the media is much higher than mine.

pelathais 11-28-2007 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 313259)
Your confidence in the media is much higher than mine.

I've been searching for something that would relate to this but have not come up with anything- even from the "conservative alternative" news sites like WND and such.

I suspect that the report you heard may have been something like this report from the Dallas/Irving TX area. You have to wade through a couple of ads to get to the Dallas Morning News story. A lot of families get seperated due to the immigration issues. It's sad, but just try and immigrate into any other country in the world and see what happens.

In Spain they were shooting people as they tried to get into Spanish territory. Get caught illegally entering most European countries and unless you have a lot of cash you are "interred" and "repatriated." North Koreans caught sneaking into China often get the death sentence.

The U.S. has bent over backward to accomodate some pretty massive migrations of people just since WW2. Millions of Germans (our enemies!) and other Europeans were settled in the "Displaced Persons" acts. Tens of millions of Mexicans have been allowed to pretty much walk right in and set up shop.

Today, Los Angeles is the second largest Mexican city in the world. It's also the second largest Korean city. The second largest Filipino city. The second largest Guatamalan city. The second largest Costa Rican city. The list goes on.

This is a great country but we all have to work hard to keep it a great place to live. We are honored that so many people want to come here. That says a lot about what it means to be an American and just how lucky all of us are.

HeavenlyOne 11-28-2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 313259)
Your confidence in the media is much higher than mine.

Perhaps you didn't see my mention of LIBERAL media......;)

Believe me, they'd love to get a story like that on their laps!!

BoredOutOfMyMind 11-28-2007 04:25 PM

I am a MexiCalifornian.

We were annexed by the Militant invaders in 1845 to rob our peoples of their heritage and the land of it's gold and resources.

Esther, if we were really serious, we COULD have dug a trench and filled it like the Soviets did in Berlin.

We COULD have allocated funds to FIGHT invasions instead of imprisoning two of our OWN US BORDER AGENTS simply doing their job.

:ignore

Esther 11-29-2007 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 313302)
I am a MexiCalifornian.

We were annexed by the Militant invaders in 1845 to rob our peoples of their heritage and the land of it's gold and resources.

Esther, if we were really serious, we COULD have dug a trench and filled it like the Soviets did in Berlin.

We COULD have allocated funds to FIGHT invasions instead of imprisoning two of our OWN US BORDER AGENTS simply doing their job.
:ignore

Yes they told me that as well. Their hands have been tied.

This is really serious to me.


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