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Truthseeker 12-03-2007 09:20 AM

Satan Claus????
 
I was in the break room at work and the discussion on telling kids there's a santa came up. My position is that it's lying to your children and how can you get mad when they lie if you lied to them about santa, bunny rabbit, tooth fairy, and etc.....

Some kids are crushed when they find out there is no santa, to them he's real and they believed in him as real being. I read one testimony where it made a boy start to question if Jesus is made up too, this was after he found out about santa.


Besides the lie part, it goes into the area of Idolatry.

They teach he sits up in the north and knows if you've been good or bad. That's deity folks! Only God knows are works, only he sees all.
Then Santa rewards according to your works. Sound familier? Sure does:

Prov 15:3

3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
KJV

Eccl 12:14

14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good , or whether it be evil .
KJV




So I have to a conclusion that santa is outright idolatry. Sad indeed kids are being taught this stuff. I heard a lady speak about asking the Lord forgive you and do it.

Ferd 12-03-2007 09:27 AM

No, and lying to your kids about santa clause is not bad either. (I really mean that, and have already started telling mine that Santa is coming to our house)

MrsMcD 12-03-2007 09:37 AM

I have never told my child that Santa is real. He isn't so I would feel that I was being dishonest. I always told him that he was just like Barney, Winnie-the-Pooh, or any other made up character.

Besides, I never wanted Santa to get credit for the money I spend on my child's gifts. :D

However, he did get to sit on Santa's lap and take pictures. We do have fun at Christmas time. ;)

Truthseeker 12-03-2007 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsMcD (Post 317298)
I have never told my child that Santa is real. He isn't so I would feel that I was being dishonest. I always told him that he was just like Barney, Winnie-the-Pooh, or any other made up character.

Besides, I never wanted Santa to get credit for the money I spend on my child's gifts. :D

However, he did get to sit on Santa's lap and take pictures. We do have fun at Christmas time. ;)

Well, that's better then letting him actually believe santa is real.

ChurchMouse 12-03-2007 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsMcD (Post 317298)
I have never told my child that Santa is real. He isn't so I would feel that I was being dishonest. I always told him that he was just like Barney, Winnie-the-Pooh, or any other made up character.

Besides, I never wanted Santa to get credit for the money I spend on my child's gifts. :D

However, he did get to sit on Santa's lap and take pictures. We do have fun at Christmas time. ;)

AAAAMMMMEEEEENNNNN !!!!!!!, I'm not gonna give somebody else credit for what I paid for, no way !!!!!:amen

Truthseeker 12-03-2007 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 317286)
No, and lying to your kids about santa clause is not bad either. (I really mean that, and have already started telling mine that Santa is coming to our house)

Lying to your kids is not bad???

OneAccord 12-03-2007 09:59 AM

No, Virginia, there is no Santa Claus. No Easter Bunny. No Great Pumpkin, Linus. No Bugs Bunny. No Mickey Mouse. No Superman and no, there is no Captain James T. Kirk of the USS Enterprize.



Thanks. Thanks for spoilin' it all.

ChurchMouse 12-03-2007 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 317318)
No, Virginia, there is no Santa Claus. No Easter Bunny. No Great Pumpkin, Linus. No Bugs Bunny. No Mickey Mouse. No Superman and no, there is no Captain James T. Kirk of the USS Enterprize.



Thanks. Thanks for spoilin' it all.

:toofunny NO MICKEY MOUSE ??????!!!!!!:runhills

Mrs. LPW 12-03-2007 10:04 AM

Glad you wrote this, We get some pretty strange looks when we tell people we aren't telling our sons there is a Santa...

When I was small my parents were saved... and though they never outright said there was no Santa.. they never spoke of him or let on he left gifts...my aunts and uncles and cousins and friends would all talk about him, but my parents never said "That's a lie" they just didn't feed it... and when I was in grade two I came home and asked point blank if there was a Santa because all the kids were talking about him. They said.. no.. no Santa.
I didn't feel the least bit bad about it. But I still enjoyed every single Christmas, the Christmas carols... even the ones about Santa and Rudolph... I enjoyed thinking.. wouldn't it be neat if Reindeer really COULd fly? But I knew they couldn't. It didn't bother me a bit.

As an adult, it always disturbed me how "Santa" was able to see everything... and know everything... And I made the decision, no matter how unpopular with the other parents I know (including good Christian ones) that I wasn't going to tell my sons there was a Santa.


:santasleigh

PS. There is no Easter Bunny Either GAAAAAAAASSSSPPP :lol

Sherri 12-03-2007 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrsMcD (Post 317298)
I have never told my child that Santa is real. He isn't so I would feel that I was being dishonest. I always told him that he was just like Barney, Winnie-the-Pooh, or any other made up character.

Besides, I never wanted Santa to get credit for the money I spend on my child's gifts. :D

However, he did get to sit on Santa's lap and take pictures. We do have fun at Christmas time. ;)

This is exactly how we handled it with our kids. We never told them that Santa was real; only that he was like a funny cartoon character that people associated with Christmas. I didn't want to tell them that he was real, since people tend to make him too much like God (knowing right from wrong, etc). I didn't want to confuse them about God being real. But we did let them visit Santa at the mall if they wanted, etc.


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