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Dedicated Mind 12-11-2007 11:47 AM

3-Step Controversy
 
Can't this one-step, three-step controversy be resolved by making a distinction between New Birth and Salvation?

New Birth takes 3 steps!

Salvation is totally dependent on God's judgement!

Rom 9:15,16, "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy."

God can save according to the "light doctrine", but we should still teach and preach a 3-step New Birth. jmho

ManOfWord 12-11-2007 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 323997)
Can't this one-step, three-step controversy be resolved by making a distinction between New Birth and Salvation?

New Birth takes 3 steps!

Salvation is totally dependent on God's judgement!

Rom 9:15,16, "I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy."

God can save according to the "light doctrine", but we should still teach and preach a 3-step New Birth. jmho

Nice try, but that's a swing and miss!!!! :D

Dedicated Mind 12-11-2007 11:53 AM

Dan, what is your purpose in promoting one-step doctrine?

Do you think three-steppers should convert to one-step and/or embrace charismatics in fellowship?

Dedicated Mind 12-11-2007 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 324000)
Nice try, but that's a swing and miss!!!! :D

what is wrong with my scripturally based reasoning???

mizpeh 12-11-2007 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 324001)
Dan, what is your purpose in promoting one-step doctrine?

Do you think three-steppers should convert to one-step and/or embrace charismatics in fellowship?

Of course he does. Go and read some of his posts. He promotes the one-step doctrine because he believes it. Find some threads on the PCI and read them then you will know what many on this site believe and teach. Dan is just the most outspoken.

SDG 12-11-2007 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 324001)
Dan, what is your purpose in promoting one-step doctrine?

Do you think three-steppers should convert to one-step and/or embrace charismatics in fellowship?

I am for rightly dividing the Word as the apostles taught and preached it. The apostles did not preach the 3 step view as presented by most, if not all, with what we here call the PAJC view.

I am for fellowshipping the body of Christ ... and not closed fellowship based on the traditions of men and hatred for bethren.

RevDWW 12-11-2007 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 324055)
I am for rightly dividing the Word as the apostles taught and preached it. The apostles did not preach the 3 step view as presented by most, if not all, with what we here call the PAJC view.

I am for fellowshipping the body of Christ ... and not closed fellowship based on the traditions of men and hatred for bethren.

Dividing? Yes!
Rightly???????:tease:tease:tease:tease

ManOfWord 12-11-2007 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 324002)
what is wrong with my scripturally based reasoning???

Because you're not "melding" them together at all as you suppose. Three steps is three steps no matter how you slice it. The problem is the paradigm. :D

Dedicated Mind 12-11-2007 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 324302)
Because you're not "melding" them together at all as you suppose. Three steps is three steps no matter how you slice it. The problem is the paradigm. :D

3 steps of new birth is not the same as 3 steps to salvation. God can save at any step after repentance. One is not born again until after all 3 steps.


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