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J-Roc 12-30-2007 01:16 PM

Romans 10:9
 
Here's a powerful scripture for ya...


If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved. (Romans 10:9-10)



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Ron 12-30-2007 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Roc (Post 340287)
Here's a powerful scripture for ya...


If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved. (Romans 10:9-10)

Which version is that out of??:hmmm

J-Roc 12-30-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 340289)
Which version is that out of??:hmmm

Isn't it so readable? The NLT

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Ron 12-30-2007 01:23 PM

So we just believe & receive? Blab & grab?

J-Roc 12-30-2007 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 340293)
So we just believe & receive? Blab & grab?

Yes, that is the starting point of our faith walk....seems too easy, doesn't it? Some folks say to themselves, "how could we think that the cross's blood is sufficient to wipe out our sins for those that believe and trust in the Lord."

That is just too easy, huh? Well, to that I say, there was nothing easy about my Savior shedding blood for my sins at Calvary and through my faith in Him he imputes his perfect righteousness (right standing) unto me and credits my account and I am no longer guilty before an Almighty God since he sees the sacrifice of our Mediator - Jesus the Christ!


SOMEONE PLEASE POINT ME TO THE CROSS!!!!

J-Roc 12-30-2007 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 340293)
So we just believe & receive? Blab & grab?

Question Ron...when you read Romans 10:9 do you just willfully ignore what is said there....was Paul better off not mentioning that fact?

Ron 12-30-2007 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Roc (Post 340296)
Question Ron...when you read Romans 10:9 do you just willfully ignore what is said there....was Paul better off not mentioning that fact?

What I do is this,

2Ti 2:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


I put no doctrine on one piece of scripture.
If I did that, I would have to throw out scriptures such as this,

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

It would also cause me to ignore James,

Jam 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jam 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works.
Jam 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jam 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jam 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Jam 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Jam 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Jam 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Jam 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
Jam 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Speaks plain to me in just these two instances that we are justified by faith
demonstrated by our actions in obedience to the word.

2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Obedience is more than lip service to God.

Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Isaiah prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoreth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.

mizpeh 12-30-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 340289)
Which version is that out of??:hmmm

It's a paraphase Bible. :rudolph:rudolph

mizpeh 12-30-2007 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 340304)
I put no doctrine on one piece of scripture.
If I did that, I would have to throw out scriptures such as this,

Amen, I was thinking the same thing!

J-Roc 12-30-2007 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 340304)
What I do is this,

2Ti 2:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


I put no doctrine on one piece of scripture.
If I did that, I would have to throw out scriptures such as this,

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

It would also cause me to ignore James,

Jam 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jam 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith without thy works, and I will show thee my faith by my works.
Jam 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jam 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jam 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Jam 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Jam 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Jam 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Jam 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
Jam 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Speaks plain to me in just these two instances that we are justified by faith
demonstrated by our actions in obedience to the word.

2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Obedience is more than lip service to God.

Mar 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Isaiah prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoreth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.


The Scripture you referenced from James is not talking about saving faith as Romans 10:9 is. For demons cannot obtain salvation. One of our greatest act of obedience is our faith.

But tell me, Ron, what does Romans 10:9 mean to you? Is what Paul says in plain language mean anything? Show me in context, what Romans 10:9 is saying?


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