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Sept5SavedTeen 02-02-2008 01:49 PM

JEWS!
 
Ok, we all love them, they're great. The question is this; if a Jew converts to Christianity do they still need to keep the Law? The reason I ask this- I obviously don't have to worry about keeping sabbath or kosher or anything like that. GOD has never told us in the New Covenant to keep it and GOD never told my people to keep these things, because I am not Jewish. However, for a Jew, GOD DID tell them to keep sabbath and kosher, ect, ect... Now I'm not saying this saves them, but is it their duty as still being Jews to keep the Law? And of course, I'm not saying at all that any Gentile convert to Christianity has to keep the Law, but as for the Jew that converts, well that's for us to discuss now...

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Rev 02-02-2008 01:51 PM

Re: JEWS!
 
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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen (Post 377694)
Ok, we all love them, they're great. The question is this; if a Jew converts to Christianity do they still need to keep the Law? The reason I ask this- I obviously don't have to worry about keeping sabbath or kosher or anything like that. GOD has never told us in the New Covenant to keep it and GOD never told my people to keep these things, because I am not Jewish. However, for a Jew, GOD DID tell them to keep sabbath and kosher, ect, ect... Now I'm not saying this saves them, but is it their duty as still being Jews to keep the Law? And of course, I'm not saying at all that any Gentile convert to Christianity has to keep the Law, but as for the Jew that converts, well that's for us to discuss now...

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Much of the N.T. was written to and for Jews. What does it say?

Praxeas 02-02-2008 01:51 PM

Re: JEWS!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen (Post 377694)
Ok, we all love them, they're great. The question is this; if a Jew converts to Christianity do they still need to keep the Law? The reason I ask this- I obviously don't have to worry about keeping sabbath or kosher or anything like that. GOD has never told us in the New Covenant to keep it and GOD never told my people to keep these things, because I am not Jewish. However, for a Jew, GOD DID tell them to keep sabbath and kosher, ect, ect... Now I'm not saying this saves them, but is it their duty as still being Jews to keep the Law? And of course, I'm not saying at all that any Gentile convert to Christianity has to keep the Law, but as for the Jew that converts, well that's for us to discuss now...

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Do the NEED to keep the Law? No. Can they keep the law? Yes. Should they keep the law? Absolutely!

Praxeas 02-02-2008 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev (Post 377696)
Much of the N.T. was written to and for Jews. What does it say?

"Go and do thou likewise"?

mfblume 02-02-2008 01:58 PM

Re: JEWS!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen (Post 377694)
Ok, we all love them, they're great. The question is this; if a Jew converts to Christianity do they still need to keep the Law? The reason I ask this- I obviously don't have to worry about keeping sabbath or kosher or anything like that. GOD has never told us in the New Covenant to keep it and GOD never told my people to keep these things, because I am not Jewish. However, for a Jew, GOD DID tell them to keep sabbath and kosher, ect, ect... Now I'm not saying this saves them, but is it their duty as still being Jews to keep the Law? And of course, I'm not saying at all that any Gentile convert to Christianity has to keep the Law, but as for the Jew that converts, well that's for us to discuss now...

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

No law for Jews or gentiles. Peter said law was a yoke neither they nor their fathers were able to bear. Acts 15.

Paul also said in Gal 3 through 4 that law was the jews' schoolmaster of elementary lessons that were given before Christ came. But since Christ came, JEWS are not under a schoolmaster any more. So that would mean they are not under law and its rituals any more. Christ has come and they need to go to Him.

Revelationist 02-02-2008 02:01 PM

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When the Jews come to Jesus, it is the fulfillment of the law. They are only keeping the law when they come to Christ...

Sept5SavedTeen 02-02-2008 02:01 PM

Re: JEWS!
 
I'm not speaking of moral law, which we all have to keep. I'm talking about dietary law and the ceremonial law to an extent, obviously the ceremonial sacrifices are no longer necessary, but do the ceremonial laws concerning SPECIFIC obligations and commandments (mitzvots) such as keeping Shabbat or High Holy Days and other Holy Days ect. have to be kept. The NT mentions those who esteem some days and new moons and such. The Jews are told not to look down on us for not doing them, but should they be doing these things? Does GOD still have a covenant with this people?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

mfblume 02-02-2008 02:04 PM

Re: JEWS!
 
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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen (Post 377707)
I'm not speaking of moral law, which we all have to keep. I'm talking about dietary law and the ceremonial law to an extent, obviously the ceremonial sacrifices are no longer necessary, but do the ceremonial laws concerning SPECIFIC obligations and commandments (mitzvots) such as keeping Shabbat or High Holy Days and other Holy Days ect. have to be kept. The NT mentions those who esteem some days and new moons and such. The Jews are told not to look down on us for not doing them, but should they be doing these things? Does GOD still have a covenant with this people?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Again, I think no. Sabbath is not a moral law. It is ritual.

Paul said the sabbaths are a shadow of the body, Christ. Once you have the body, you have the actuality and not a mere shadow.

TRFrance 02-02-2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 377697)
Do the NEED to keep the Law? No. Can they keep the law? Yes. Should they keep the law? Absolutely!

What am I missing here?

Why should they keep the law if, as you yourself say, there is no need for them to?

mfblume 02-02-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 377714)
What am I missing here?

Why should they keep the law if, as you yourself say, there is no need for them to?

I ask the same thing. Why? I think the New testaments shows that Jews should NOT keep any laws at all in some contrast to gentile believers.


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