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Sept5SavedTeen 03-25-2008 01:28 PM

Good Samaritan Reconsidered
 
Ok, maybe you'll think this is cheesy, but it popped into my head and I figured I'd put it out there. I don't know if anyone else has ever used this example before, but regardless I figured a few could entertain this with me. I am 100% Acts 2:38 believing, ect, ect... and so is the assembly I attend. However, it seems difficult to ignore all those trinitarians, who greatly outnumber us in people (and sometimes in good deeds). Now being "good" can't get anyone to Heaven. But do we Apostolics have a sort of Israel-Samaritan relationship with the trinitarians? If these trinitarians who don't have full truth (like the Samaritans did) but they love their neighbor, like JESUS instructed, is there any sort of reward or lightening of their punishment in hell? Here's the parable, sort of mad libbed, I used the UPC only because it's the largest oneness group and they have an organizational structure (which helped in filling in the spots between "priest" and "Levite." If anyone wants to take the three spots I mad libbed and fill in whatever other scenario, feel free, a good, open discussion would be good I think. I look forward to hearing people's takes on this. And I am in no way trying to vilify UPCers or Apostolics in any way or justify the false doctrines of the trinitarians.

Luke 10:25And, behold, a certain conservative Apostolic stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?

27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

29But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?

30And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.

31And by chance there came down a UPCI District Superintendent that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.

32And likewise a certain mega-church UPC pastor, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.

33But a certain Baptist preacher, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,

34And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.

35And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.

36Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?

37And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

SDG 03-25-2008 01:32 PM

Re: Good Samaritan Reconsidered
 
Someone thinks he's still a Levite. :bored

Sept5SavedTeen 03-25-2008 01:35 PM

Re: Good Samaritan Reconsidered
 
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 423324)
Someone thinks he's still a Levite. :bored

As in some Apostolics believe we ought not touch certain people or follow the law almost in a ceremonial/sanctimonious sort of way?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

SDG 03-25-2008 01:36 PM

Re: Good Samaritan Reconsidered
 
Quote:

is there any sort of reward or lightening of their punishment in hell?
They're giving out rewards in Hell? Describe lightening Hell's punishment for me?

SDG 03-25-2008 01:42 PM

Re: Good Samaritan Reconsidered
 
All those born of the Spirit are born of God ... they are HIS. So no there is no Israel-Samaritan relations between Apostolics and Trinnies .... God doesn't have step-children ... or black sheep in His fold.

Sept5SavedTeen 03-25-2008 01:43 PM

Re: Good Samaritan Reconsidered
 
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 423333)
They're giving out rewards in Hell? Describe lightening Hell's punishment for me?

Could there be some sort of reward for these people, even if they're not saved in the end? Could their torment in hell be lightened by their good deeds? I don't want to propose they'll be annihilated in hell (although, I would love for this scenario to come to pass instead of an eternal punishment) just because that could get us on a whole other tangent.
At this past POWER in Plaster Rock, Bro. Booker preached on "Doing Good", he actually has a banner in his assembly hall in Rialto that quotes the Scripture that says, "He went about doing good" speaking of JESUS (or something like that). Now, he mentioned in his sermon, that doing good should be the goal of everyone, saved and unsaved alike, and even that the unsaved wouldn't lose their reward of their good deeds. However, the question is then raised, what is the reward? How can there be any blessing/reward for keeping the commandment if overall you are lost for being a trinitarian?
Perhaps I should have asked Bro. Booker what he meant... he was seated just a few tables away from where I was, he really is a good preacher and man of GOD.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Sept5SavedTeen 03-25-2008 01:45 PM

Re: Good Samaritan Reconsidered
 
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 423338)
All those born of the Spirit are born of God ... they are HIS. So no there is no Israel-Samaritan relations between Apostolics and Trinnies .... God doesn't have step-children ... or black sheep in His fold.

Ok, good point, may I ask where you fall on the whole 3-step/Acts 2:38 issue?
But these trinitarians are "neighbors" in the way JESUS was speaking of a good neighbor and therefore, what will they reap by following these words of JESUS?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

RandyWayne 03-25-2008 01:47 PM

Re: Good Samaritan Reconsidered
 
I think there are going to be a whole lot more saved (granted still a very small % of HUMAN kind) then some think.

Sept5SavedTeen 03-25-2008 01:48 PM

Re: Good Samaritan Reconsidered
 
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 423344)
I think there are going to be a whole lot more saved (granted still a very small % of HUMAN kind) then some think.

Care to elaborate? Will some of these be trinitarians that did good deeds?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

SDG 03-25-2008 01:48 PM

Re: Good Samaritan Reconsidered
 
The parable of the Good Samaritan is not about who's in or who's out .... but rather an attitude of heart and THE GREAT COMMANDMENT ...

This parable is prefaced by a dialog between Jesus and a man who came and asked him what he must do to inherit eternal life ...

Jesus responded :

27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

When the man asked "Who is my neighbor?" ... Jesus expounded w/ this parable as to who is our neighbor ... It was the Good Samaritan who knew who his neighbor was ....


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