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StillStanding 04-11-2008 04:09 PM

Is "Christ" a title or a name?
 
Is "Jesus" the first name, and "Christ" the last name?

We all believe that "Father", "Son" and "Holy Ghost" are titles, but is "Christ" also a title? When we baptize in the name of Jesus Christ, are we saying his name and title?

From the Catholic Encyclopedia:

The name "Jesus" is an Anglicization of the Greek Ίησους (Iēsous), itself a Hellenization of the Hebrew יהושע (Yehoshua) or Hebrew-Aramaic ישוע (Yeshua), meaning "YHWH rescues". "Christ" is a title derived from the Greek Χριστός (Christós), meaning the "Anointed One," which corresponds to the Hebrew-derived "Messiah".[5]

Jack Shephard 04-11-2008 04:19 PM

Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 438797)
Is "Jesus" the first name, and "Christ" the last name?

We all believe that "Father", "Son" and "Holy Ghost" are titles, but is "Christ" also a title? When we baptize in the name of Jesus Christ, are we saying his name and title?

From the Catholic Encyclopedia:

The name "Jesus" is an Anglicization of the Greek Ίησους (Iēsous), itself a Hellenization of the Hebrew יהושע (Yehoshua) or Hebrew-Aramaic ישוע (Yeshua), meaning "YHWH rescues". "Christ" is a title derived from the Greek Χριστός (Christós), meaning the "Anointed One," which corresponds to the Hebrew-derived "Messiah".[5]

I am not too sure, but some have said His name is Jesus the Christ kinda like John the Baptist.

scotty 04-11-2008 04:25 PM

Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 438809)
I am not too sure, but some have said His name is Jesus the Christ kinda like John the Baptist.

thats the way I see it

In Jesus name not in Jesus Christ name

StillStanding 04-11-2008 04:26 PM

Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 438809)
I am not too sure, but some have said His name is Jesus the Christ kinda like John the Baptist.

Here is another quote:

Quote:

The History of the Title

The title "Christ" comes from the Greek word Christos (CristoV) which is a translation of the Hebrew word Messiah meaning "The Anointed One." During the time of the Old Testament, the term "messiah" (the anointed-one) was meant to apply to Kings and High Priests who were "christened" with oil at the time of their inauguration ceremony or when they were given their "powers" of office. During this time, the word "Messiah" never meant or even implied that a person was actually divine. The famous seventy-sevens (weeks) riddle in the Book of Daniel (Dan 9:24-27) mentions three different anointed-ones, the Jewish Temple (Dan 9:24), King Cyrus, the King of Babylon (Dan 9:25, Is 45:1), and the Hebrew High Priest Onias III (Dan 9:26).

During the time the Hebrew nation was occupied by the Greeks and then the Romans, the title "Christ" gradually took on the added meaning of a deliverer or a savior. The famous seventy-sevens (weeks) riddle in the Book of Daniel (Dan 9:24-27) mentions three different anointed-ones, the Jewish Temple (Dan 9:24), Cyrus the Great, the King of Babylon (Dan 9:25, Is 45:1), and the Hebrew High Priest Onias III (Dan 9:26). It was at this time that the Jews fervently began to pray that God would metaphorically "anoint" a future king to free them from their pagan lords.

At the time the first Christian literature appeared in the early 1st century AD, the definition of the word "Christ" changed again and took on a religious meaning. The epistles of Paul (50-60 AD) turned the name "Christ" into a proper name and cosmic title. By the time of the gospels (80-130AD) Jesus was seen as a real man who lived on earth. In the gospels, the earthly "Christ" fled from crowds who wanted to make him an earthly "king" because it was a secular position that was beneath him. The gospel's thinly vieled message of calling Jesus "Christ" was to imply that he was a heavenly king "anointed" by God to save mankind. Jesus earned his title of the Christ (the anointed one) when he was baptised in the Jordan River, which was also known as "The River of the Rising Sun" (Joshua 12:1).

To gnostic Christians, the "Word" and Sign of "Christ" took on a mythical meaning because of the isopsephia value of the name. The "number" of the Greek name "Christ" is 1480 units and six circles with that circumference fit exactly inside the raised Jesus (8880)! The name "Christ" was now transformed into a Christian mystery, a name that signified divine, magical, cosmic powers. The early Christians believed they could become like Christ if they were "anointed" with water and the "holy spirit" through the ritual sacrament of baptism.
If "Christ" is indeed a title, then those who baptize in only the name of "Jesus" or "Lord Jesus" are fine. I find it a little amusing that some will criticize the trinnies for using the titles, yet they use a title also!

Sam 04-11-2008 04:37 PM

Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
 
His name is Jesus (in English).
He is Lord and He is Christ (Acts 2:36).
He is the Lord/Sovereign One and He is the Christ/Messiah/Anointed One.
He is Lord/God/Deity and He is Christ/humanity/the man through whom God will rule.
Lord and Christ are titles/offices.

Unless you are part of the group that believe
Lord is the name of the Father
Jesus is the name of the Son
Christ is the name of the Holy Ghost
and
just as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one(united) God
Lord Jesus Christ is one (united) name.
(Some people consider this three/one name to be trinitarian)

TK Burk 04-11-2008 04:42 PM

Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
 
No one 'called' (said) Jesus, "Christ." The only time the title "Christ" is used is when Jesus is spoken of or written about.

So, NO, Christ is not His name. Instead it is a reference to His calling.

Jack Shephard 04-11-2008 04:46 PM

Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoman (Post 438815)
Here is another quote:



If "Christ" is indeed a title, then those who baptize in only the name of "Jesus" or "Lord Jesus" are fine. I find it a little amusing that some will criticize the trinnies for using the titles, yet they use a title also!

I agree I think it is more of a title than anything. I have no probelms with titles...lol

Rico 04-11-2008 05:03 PM

Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
 
I had a pastor who absolutely refused to baptize anyone using the words, "The Lord Jesus Christ." He thought it was as trinity as saying, "Father, Son, and Holy Ghost."

ManOfWord 04-11-2008 05:05 PM

Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
 
He was Yeshua Ha Mashiach. Jesus the Messiah. He was NEVER called Jesus. He was called Yeshua. It was not an uncommon name at that time.

If fact, if we're going to make the NAME have remission effects on sin, shouldn't we use the REAL name? If we don't use the REAL name, does the baptism work?





I don't baptize in the name of Yeshua. I always do it "in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."

Rico 04-11-2008 05:16 PM

Re: Is "Christ" a title or a name?
 
There are no examples of anyone being baptized using "the Lord Jesus Christ" in the NT. Interesting, ain't it?


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