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Sister Alvear 05-30-2008 11:24 AM

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To make a long story short we counted on support from several pastorīs for a certain project and I guess because of the up on things there everyone backed out and we had made the debt building a church counting on their help. Now we have a tremendous debt at the bank. I am not asking for anyone on this forum for money but am asking you all to pray that God will move on people that can help us.
Many times things like this happen to missionaries and has hapened to us in the past. We know God will help us but we are asking for your prayers.
Thank you dear friends.

steve p 05-30-2008 11:37 AM

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Praying for favor for you and your mission Sis Alvear
Blessings

Dr. Vaughn 05-30-2008 11:40 AM

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Sis. Alvear... as soon as you get your paypal working let me know.. since our pastor has recently resigned...leaving us without a place to tithe,,,, we have not payed out tithe this month.. would love to send some your way

Sister Alvear 05-30-2008 07:13 PM

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We are working on sitting it up. Please do remember us in your prayers.

MrRight 05-30-2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 477258)
Sis. Alvear... as soon as you get your paypal working let me know.. since our pastor has recently resigned...leaving us without a place to tithe,,,, we have not payed out tithe this month.. would love to send some your way

Intersting. why would you not give your tithes to the church? What does a pastor leaving have to do with giving yor tithes? That is sily to me. I don't understand. you only tithe when there is a pastor?

Dr. Vaughn 05-30-2008 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRight (Post 477891)
Intersting. why would you not give your tithes to the church? What does a pastor leaving have to do with giving yor tithes? That is sily to me. I don't understand. you only tithe when there is a pastor?

Sir,,, your nose isn't long enough to get into my business... Bro. Brown was our Pastor.. we paid our tithes directly to him... not the church he Pastored.. he lives some 300 miles away... we do not pay our tithes into out local church as we like to plant them in another field of ministry...... God has blessed us here and our church doesn't need the funds..... so until we decide what to do with our tithing.. we thought we would perhaps support missions....

you know what I don't owe you an explanation so why did I just give you one? Oh well

Sister Alvear 05-30-2008 08:05 PM

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When we all do our work to the glory of God, “the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work” (Eph. 4:16).

Dear Friends in the Homeland:
Mission work is our breath, our calling and the reason we exist. For 40 years we have worked in His harvest fields. We have shared with you both our victories and defeat our blessings and our trials.
There is something I would like to share with you all. It is very personal but we desperately your help.
I guess due to high gas prices, the threat of recession several of our faithful supporters that promised to help us build a church were unable to. We counted that they would since they had promised and went ahead and borrowed the money and built the church and the other projects. Because they were not able to give what they promised we have been left with a 12 thousand dollar debt that we have no possible way of paying. I am once again asking if you could help us. I have had a migraine all day so worried about this as Bro Alvear and myself are not in good health. I felt if I would write God would speak to hearts to help us out of this bind.
As a missionary, I often struggle with the task of writing specific prayer requests that creatively communicate the very real needs that our families face. This week has been a week that we have really had to trust God for every meal and every drop of gas…the barrel has been so empty. I am usually such an up person but this week and things we have been going through financially has cast such a gloom that even I have had to rebuke. I know God has an answer for each of us. Each time I sit down to write, it is my desire to challenge the reader to participate with us as a partner, especially when it reflects the need for additional support. I know battles are not won by tricks, or by good luck but by the real presence of the Lord. God uses men and women to be His channels to supply the needs of His work.
We have encountered many difficult and dangerous obstacles on our journey but we can say we are more than conquerors through Christ Jesus.
“Mission is the very lifeblood of the church. As the body cannot survive without blood, so the church cannot survive without mission.”
Thank you so much for your financial support, faithful prayer and frequent encouragement which has kept us on the front line of the mission field, lifting up Jesus Christ over Brazil and beyond for 40 years! We appreciate you and love you all. Together we are making a difference for the cause of Christ!
Just writing this letter even though tears have blurred my eyes a couple of time because the burden is so heavy right now but He has promised to never put more on us than we can bear. When I look at the host of saved souls I know it is worth it even though the road has been very rough at times. Will you please help us?
We remain your voices in Brazil:

Brother Raul and Janice Alvear

MrRight 05-30-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 477912)
Sir,,, your nose isn't long enough to get into my business... Bro. Brown was our Pastor.. we paid our tithes directly to him... not the church he Pastored.. he lives some 300 miles away... we do not pay our tithes into out local church as we like to plant them in another field of ministry...... God has blessed us here and our church doesn't need the funds..... so until we decide what to do with our tithing.. we thought we would perhaps support missions....

you know what I don't owe you an explanation so why did I just give you one? Oh well

so is that a new testament concept? Do you have scripture for that or is that something the "prophet" set up? have not heard of that before.

Dr. Vaughn 05-30-2008 08:22 PM

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so is that a new testament concept? Do you have scripture for that or is that something the "prophet" set up? have not heard of that before.

Not heard of paying tithe to your pastor? ok

MrRight 05-30-2008 08:42 PM

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Not heard of paying tithe to your pastor? ok

No. I give my tithes to the lord. I don't pay my pastor. Our church does. did all the people tithes get paid to pastors in the new testment? Got bible for that?


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