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Rico 05-31-2008 11:58 AM

Did You Know?
 
Did you know? If you can not afford an air conditioner for your house, but you have either an old freezer or fridge you aren't using (maybe in the garage or your basement), that you can put the fridge or freezer in any room of your house, take the doors off, let the thing run, and it will eventually cool that room down? Not posting this for any particular reason. Just wanted to show y'all how brilliant and gifted I am for figuring out solutions to problems most people don't have. :D :lol





Actually, this room that I work in is the hottest room in the house, I don't want to run the central A/C yet, my window units are too small to fit in my windows without building something to go on each side, and I happen to have an old freezer downstairs. The wheels of innovation started turning and viola! Instant thread topic. I know. I know. I start a lot of dumb threads. I've never claimed to be sane, so whaddya expect? :D

jaxfam6 05-31-2008 12:00 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
you sure you are not redneck instead of latino?

Rico 05-31-2008 12:02 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxfam6 (Post 478626)
you sure you are not redneck instead of latino?

Hehehehehe! I am both!

jaxfam6 05-31-2008 12:02 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478627)
Hehehehehe! I am both!

yeah I can believe it

Dr. Vaughn 05-31-2008 12:10 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478623)
Did you know? If you can not afford an air conditioner for your house, but you have either an old freezer or fridge you aren't using (maybe in the garage or your basement), that you can put the fridge or freezer in any room of your house, take the doors off, let the thing run, and it will eventually cool that room down? Not posting this for any particular reason. Just wanted to show y'all how brilliant and gifted I am for figuring out solutions to problems most people don't have. :D :lol





Actually, this room that I work in is the hottest room in the house, I don't want to run the central A/C yet, my window units are too small to fit in my windows without building something to go on each side, and I happen to have an old freezer downstairs. The wheels of innovation started turning and viola! Instant thread topic. I know. I know. I start a lot of dumb threads. I've never claimed to be sane, so whaddya expect? :D

Ok,, you are becoming waaay to much like your little idol there.. FRED SANFORD.. I could see him and Lamont doing the same thang

Rico 05-31-2008 12:24 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn (Post 478636)
Ok,, you are becoming waaay to much like your little idol there.. FRED SANFORD.. I could see him and Lamont doing the same thang

Brother, I used to junk for a living. I searched and searched for a musical horn that had the theme song from Sanford and Son so I could play it as I was leaving people's houses!! Never could find one. :toofunny

Rico 05-31-2008 12:25 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Just an interesting side note on Sanford and Son. Someone from this county owns the original truck that was used in that show. He puts it in the yearly parade in the town of Dale.

clgustaveson 05-31-2008 12:36 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico (Post 478623)
Did you know? If you can not afford an air conditioner for your house, but you have either an old freezer or fridge you aren't using (maybe in the garage or your basement), that you can put the fridge or freezer in any room of your house, take the doors off, let the thing run, and it will eventually cool that room down? Not posting this for any particular reason. Just wanted to show y'all how brilliant and gifted I am for figuring out solutions to problems most people don't have. :D :lol





Actually, this room that I work in is the hottest room in the house, I don't want to run the central A/C yet, my window units are too small to fit in my windows without building something to go on each side, and I happen to have an old freezer downstairs. The wheels of innovation started turning and viola! Instant thread topic. I know. I know. I start a lot of dumb threads. I've never claimed to be sane, so whaddya expect? :D


Technically this wont work.

The specific heat of air is quite low and the reason the air inside a fridge is cooled is because heat is extracted through the radiator type instrument on the back and released into the room.

The specific heat of a molecule is C=T/N working into a larger equation involving compressibility and thermal expansion.

Now molecules in a gas have an elastic attribute to their kinetic energy meaning their collision will not cool or heat surrounding molecules simply by transfer of energy, otherwise the world would freeze in a matter of seconds. Now lets say you did leave your fridge open and the coolant begins to lower the temperature of the air fairly rapidly, where does that energy go? According the law of energy transfer it is carried into the coolant located on that device. But the motion of air will not cool the air in the room down because the heat associated with the compression ratio within the house can only be offset by increasing the airs compression within it's confines.

A/C force air up and out by increasing the compression of air within your house, coolant will increase the compression as well simply by cooling but the heat extracted will be released back into the same room thus resulting in a constant air mixture resulting in your house getting hotter due to the addition of kinetic energy to the equation through thermal motion.

nahkoe 05-31-2008 12:42 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clgustaveson (Post 478664)
Technically this wont work.

The specific heat of air is quite low and the reason the air inside a fridge is cooled is because heat is extracted through the radiator type instrument on the back and released into the room.

The specific heat of a molecule is C=T/N working into a larger equation involving compressibility and thermal expansion.

Now molecules in a gas have an elastic attribute to their kinetic energy meaning their collision will not cool or heat surrounding molecules simply by transfer of energy, otherwise the world would freeze in a matter of seconds. Now lets say you did leave your fridge open and the coolant begins to lower the temperature of the air fairly rapidly, where does that energy go? According the law of energy transfer it is carried into the coolant located on that device. But the motion of air will not cool the air in the room down because the heat associated with the compression ratio within the house can only be offset by increasing the airs compression within it's confines.

A/C force air up and out by increasing the compression of air within your house, coolant will increase the compression as well simply by cooling but the heat extracted will be released back into the same room thus resulting in a constant air mixture resulting in your house getting hotter due to the addition of kinetic energy to the equation through thermal motion.

Or in English, dude that won't work. It'll make it hotter, not cooler. His explanation is better though. I like it.

Rico 05-31-2008 12:46 PM

Re: Did You Know?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clgustaveson (Post 478664)
Technically this wont work.

The specific heat of air is quite low and the reason the air inside a fridge is cooled is because heat is extracted through the radiator type instrument on the back and released into the room.

The specific heat of a molecule is C=T/N working into a larger equation involving compressibility and thermal expansion.

Now molecules in a gas have an elastic attribute to their kinetic energy meaning their collision will not cool or heat surrounding molecules simply by transfer of energy, otherwise the world would freeze in a matter of seconds. Now lets say you did leave your fridge open and the coolant begins to lower the temperature of the air fairly rapidly, where does that energy go? According the law of energy transfer it is carried into the coolant located on that device. But the motion of air will not cool the air in the room down because the heat associated with the compression ratio within the house can only be offset by increasing the airs compression within it's confines.

A/C force air up and out by increasing the compression of air within your house, coolant will increase the compression as well simply by cooling but the heat extracted will be released back into the same room thus resulting in a constant air mixture resulting in your house getting hotter due to the addition of kinetic energy to the equation through thermal motion.

Thank you, but you totally lost me. :D I do know that air conditioners and refridgerators work similarly because I have taken both apart while junking. Many of the components are the same. That's what gave me the idea that maybe taking the doors off of one would help get a room cooled down, even though I figured it might take longer than an a/c would. I was thinking that, even though a fridge does not circulate air at the same rate as an a/c, eventually all the air in the room would have been circulated enough to cool it down. You are saying that won't work?


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