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AbundantGrace 07-07-2008 02:13 PM

Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?
 
Simply put, if a person receives Christ, repents and is filled with the Holy Spirit on a Sunday evening and decides to wait until Wednesday evening to be baptized for whatever reason, yet dies on Monday evening, without be water baptized, is he/she saved or lost and why?

Ferd 07-07-2008 02:14 PM

Re: Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?
 
oy veh

Ron 07-07-2008 02:16 PM

Re: Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?
 
This sounds familiar?:hmmm

SDG 07-07-2008 02:17 PM

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We haven't discussed this in a few days ... must count for something.

Ferd 07-07-2008 02:27 PM

Re: Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?
 
So here is the defninitive answer.

some of us believe that you are not saved without baptism in the name of Jesus. period.

some of us believe that Baptism is a profession of faith in Christ, and is a public statment of the salvation recieved at repentance.

others believe that a person who comes to christ, recieves the HG but dies before being baptized would be saved but if they refused baptism they would not be saved.


in all the above cases some of us believe that Jesus name baptism is the ONLY effectual form of baptism, some of us believe Jesus name baptism is "more biblical" but do not believe that it is exclusive.

Others believe that baptism in either Jesus name or the titles are on equal footing.


Did I leave anything out?

Mrs. LPW 07-07-2008 02:28 PM

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AG returns.

Ron 07-07-2008 02:40 PM

Re: Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 520682)
So here is the defninitive answer.

some of us believe that you are not saved without baptism in the name of Jesus. period.

some of us believe that Baptism is a profession of faith in Christ, and is a public statment of the salvation recieved at repentance.

others believe that a person who comes to christ, recieves the HG but dies before being baptized would be saved but if they refused baptism they would not be saved.


in all the above cases some of us believe that Jesus name baptism is the ONLY effectual form of baptism, some of us believe Jesus name baptism is "more biblical" but do not believe that it is exclusive.

Others believe that baptism in either Jesus name or the titles are on equal footing.


Did I leave anything out?

A good cliff notes version.
How about the links to the discussion in question.

Post the one stepper vs three steeper thread, there is about three weeks of reading there!:whistle

erinsman21 07-07-2008 02:45 PM

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lol you guys are great. of course it is essential! Didnt Jesus Himself say that unless a man be born of the WATER and of the SPIRIT he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven? and didnt Peter confirm that by saying repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus for the remission on your sins and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost? we have no assurance of tomorrow. if baptism is truly necessary (and it is) then in needs to be done today! dont wait!

chosenbyone 07-07-2008 02:56 PM

Re: Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW (Post 520684)
AG returns.

Perhaps, he is looking for a friend?

mizpeh 07-07-2008 03:12 PM

Re: Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AbundantGrace (Post 520653)
Simply put, if a person receives Christ, repents and is filled with the Holy Spirit on a Sunday evening and decides to wait until Wednesday evening to be baptized for whatever reason, yet dies on Monday evening, without be water baptized, is he/she saved or lost and why?

must be born again, must be born again, must be born again, .....of the WATER and the SPIRIT (no, amniotic fluid is not part of the new birth!)


must have sins remitted, must have sins remitted, must have sins remitted... arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins calling upon the name of the Lord.



must be circumcised, must be circumcised, must be circumcised......Spiritually!



But you already know this, AG. :snapout


But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. John 20:31


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