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Trouvere 03-25-2007 12:01 AM

Are you afraid to preach or teach truth?
 
I was studying for Greek class tonight for hours and it dawned on me when translating this certain passage of scripture that within it is no middle ground.I wonder how many skip around this because their flesh wants to keep everyone saved yet the Word tells us otherwise.Come on preachers/teachers.
What do you do with this passage?How many will go to hell on a pentecostal pew because the preacher wanted to be their friend.


The one who believes in the son has life eternal but the one who does not believe the son not will see life but the
wrath of the God remains on him

This is word for word exactly as it is written in the Greek without any punctuation marks.

Trouvere 03-25-2007 12:41 AM

bump....hey where is everyone????

Felicity 03-25-2007 12:49 AM

Where is the Scripture located?

Did you take into consideration the context?

What does the rest of the chapter say?

Is there anywhere in scripture that says faith and believing alone is not enough?

Trouvere 03-25-2007 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 51937)
Where is the Scripture located?

Did you take into consideration the context?

What does the rest of the chapter say?

Is there anywhere in scripture that says faith and believing alone is not enough?

This is parsed from the Greek.We cannot change what it says by logic.
Did you not recognize John 3:36?

BoredOutOfMyMind 03-25-2007 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere (Post 51965)
This is parsed from the Greek.We cannot change what it says by logic.
Did you not recognize John 3:36?

John 3:36 as seen in the autolink from previous post

Quote:

John 3:36 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Joelel 03-25-2007 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Trouvere (Post 51891)
I was studying for Greek class tonight for hours and it dawned on me when translating this certain passage of scripture that within it is no middle ground.I wonder how many skip around this because their flesh wants to keep everyone saved yet the Word tells us otherwise.Come on preachers/teachers.
What do you do with this passage?How many will go to hell on a pentecostal pew because the preacher wanted to be their friend.


The one who believes in the son has life eternal but the one who does not believe the son not will see life but the
wrath of the God remains on him

This is word for word exactly as it is written in the Greek without any punctuation marks.

The whole problem with the word believe is it don't simply mean to except Jesus to be true.If a person really believes in Jesus they will obey his word (teachings) because he is the word.How can you truly believe in something and not obey.Acts 5:32: And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.Acts10:43: To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. (Remisssion in Jesus name baptism Acts 2:38)Have you obeyed ? Acts2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE REMISSION of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call

Allan 03-25-2007 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity (Post 51937)
Is there anywhere in scripture that says faith and believing alone is not enough?

James 2:19-20.

Trouvere 03-25-2007 11:42 PM

Some things in the word are not easy but they are not our words.They are the words of Jesus Christ.He is the gate.


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