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What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

Do you believe cutting hair is a sin worthy of hell?

Do you believe a woman should not cut their hair but it is not really a heaven or hell thing?

No makeup at all or they are sinning?

A little base is ok but other wise it's a sin?

No jewelry whatsoever, it's all sin?

At least a wedding band, but all else is sin?

Women must wear dresses to their ankles. Anything else is sin?

Women can wear dresses and skirts to below their knees, but no slits as that is sin?

Facial hair on men is sin.?

Facial hair is ok on men, not a sin?

Men must have hair above the collar, any lower and they are sinning.?

Shorts of any length is sin?

Tithing is a must. To not tithe you sin?

No TV watching at all, it's sin?

You can't even own a video machine no TV, no VCR and no DVD player, it's sin?

No internet, it's a sin?

Music must be at least 30 years old, no new fangled stuff or it's sin.

What ever your pastor teaches or says you must obey, even if you disagree, otherwise you are sinning?

Add more here if you like. I just want to see if all those that claim they are conservatives but others here are not, believe the same. What really makes someone a conservative?

Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 529870)

why do other people bother you so much.

Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

Nothing. I'm not a COnservative Apostolic.

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Originally Posted by hometown guy (Post 529876)

why do other people bother you so much.

lay off of him-- he's just asking a question. I for one would like to see the answers he gets from those who are Conservative.

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Do you believe cutting hair is a sin worthy of hell?

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Do you believe a woman should not cut their hair but it is not really a heaven or hell thing?

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No makeup at all or they are sinning?

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A little base is ok but other wise it's a sin?

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No jewelry whatsoever, it's all sin?

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At least a wedding band, but all else is sin?

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Women must wear dresses to their ankles. Anything else is sin?

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Women can wear dresses and skirts to below their knees, but no slits as that is sin?

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Facial hair on men is sin.?

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Facial hair is ok on men, not a sin?

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YES

Men must have hair above the collar, any lower and they are sinning.?

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Shorts of any length is sin?

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Tithing is a must. To not tithe you sin?

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No TV watching at all, it's sin?

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You can't even own a video machine no TV, no VCR and no DVD player, it's sin?

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No internet, it's a sin?

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Music must be at least 30 years old, no new fangled stuff or it's sin.

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What ever your pastor teaches or says you must obey, even if you disagree, otherwise you are sinning?

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NO WAY

Add more here if you like. I just want to see if all those that claim they are conservatives but others here are not, believe the same. What really makes someone a conservative?

Christ looks on the inward condition and attitues of the heart and a person's character. Anything can me a sin but not for the reasons stated above.

Why must men interpret what the word says to suit their own prejudices, convictions, or worldviews?

Why does it make people feel "holy" measured by the amount of rules they keep which are only outward and arrogant shows of men's/women's measure of "holiness"?

Blessings, Rhoni

Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

In answer to the orginal question: What makes me a 'conservative'? I believe the doctrine of ACTS 2:38, John 3: 3,5. I believe to see or enter heaven one must be born again of the water and the Spirit. These signs shall follow, and the fruits of the spirit be manifest in the individuals life.

I am conservative in Doctrine and LIBERATED by the grace and mercy of God.

Blessings, Rhoni

Re: What makes YOU a Conservative Apostolic?

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 529870)

Do you believe cutting hair is a sin worthy of hell?

No

Do you believe a woman should not cut their hair but it is not really a heaven or hell thing?

Perhaps, if they see only uncut hair as long.

No makeup at all or they are sinning?

No

A little base is ok but other wise it's a sin?

No

No jewelry whatsoever, it's all sin?

No

At least a wedding band, but all else is sin?

No

Women must wear dresses to their ankles. Anything else is sin?

No

Women can wear dresses and skirts to below their knees, but no slits as that is sin?

No

Facial hair on men is sin.?

No

Facial hair is ok on men, not a sin?

Right

Men must have hair above the collar, any lower and they are sinning.?

No

Shorts of any length is sin?

No

Tithing is a must. To not tithe you sin?

No

No TV watching at all, it's sin?

No

You can't even own a video machine no TV, no VCR and no DVD player, it's sin?

No

No internet, it's a sin?

No

Music must be at least 30 years old, no new fangled stuff or it's sin.

No

What ever your pastor teaches or says you must obey, even if you disagree, otherwise you are sinning?

No

Add more here if you like. I just want to see if all those that claim they are conservatives but others here are not, believe the same. What really makes someone a conservative?

I am conservative because I take a quite literal approach to scripture, believing even a layperson can find the key to eternal life in Jesus. I am conservative because I choose to discipline myself and my lifestyle far more than required by Christian liberty.

Finally, I am very conservative in dishing out judgement to Christians who love Jesus but have reached conclusions other than what I have, and leave the casting "into outer darkness" to Him that can actually accomplish it.

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...hum... let's see here! okay, when if I answer, I'm not going to smacked around because I am honest...AM I? maybe not you personally Prax...but I can just see others sitting there waiting for a con to answer so they can start the beating :beatdeadhorse:beatdeadhorse all over again...

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 529870)

Do you believe cutting hair is a sin worthy of hell?
Yes I do believe cutting hair is a sin.
Do you believe a woman should not cut their hair but it is not really a heaven or hell thing?

No makeup at all or they are sinning?
Correct
A little base is ok but other wise it's a sin?

No jewelry whatsoever, it's all sin?
I wear no jewelry...I do believe it is sin...
At least a wedding band, but all else is sin?

Women must wear dresses to their ankles. Anything else is sin?
Being 5'9, very seldom do I find dresses to my ankles! LOL No that is not what I believe....I wear mine below the knee...which would probably come to most girls ankles!:ursofunny

Women can wear dresses and skirts to below their knees, but no slits as that is sin? I don't have slits in my skirts...well, I do have an inch of a slit right under that last button... :aaa Sin? Hmm.. I don't think soo...but you need to cautious... I mean...why have a mile high slit? NOT good...

Facial hair on men is sin.?

Facial hair is ok on men, not a sin?
considering that clean shaven was once considered "feminine".....I don't think facial hair is a sin...but the goatee's....that's a different story!

Men must have hair above the collar, any lower and they are sinning.?

Shorts of any length is sin?
Of course, that would be shorts for men since I don't wear them...the men in my life don't wear shorts...but if they have those long shorts that are cut off above the ankle...I don't think it is sin...

Tithing is a must. To not tithe you sin?
We do tithe and I do believe you have to!
No TV watching at all, it's sin?

It is the content of what you are looking at that determines whether it is sin or not....but I will say, I do not have a tv, don't ever, ever, ever plan on having a tv and don't care to deal with a tv in my home....I don't think the "television" itself is the sin here...it's the content...

You can't even own a video machine no TV, no VCR and no DVD player, it's sin?
Again, it's the content in what you are viewing.....No internet, it's a sin?
YES, INTERNET IS A SIN :ursofunny

Music must be at least 30 years old, no new fangled stuff or it's sin.
Don't think sooo....not...not even close......

What ever your pastor teaches or says you must obey, even if you disagree, otherwise you are sinning?
OKay.... here's one that um, well... ok... Is it biblical/non biblical teaching? Are you compromising? Is it something very minor? This is not a yes/no answer. If you are going to submit yourself to a pastor, sit in that particular church, pay your tithes to that office...then you need to obey.......IF you disagree, you need to either line up or sit under another pastor...otherwise that just causes problems for you, pastor, the church...

There were times I did not agree with my pastor but it was no big deal... For example, I went to a church where they preached "no colored nylons at all". Okay, I have no problem with colored nylons... but I didn't wear them while I attended that church...

Now, if it is something way off and the pastor is out of line....I would, well, my husband would let the pastor know that we would have to move on else where.... Leave in good standing (if at all possible) and allow NO bitterness.
Add more here if you like. I just want to see if all those that claim they are conservatives but others here are not, believe the same. What really makes someone a conservative?

Yep, I guess that is what labels me as a conservative! But it goes much further than the outward that makes me a conservative!

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Do you really want me to post my thoughts and opinion?

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The Bible is very specific about some sins and very vague about others. Hence it tells us to work out our OWN salvation. It all boils down to a lot of people view a set of laws made by men under "divine inspiration" to be that way or the highway and therefore sin if not followed to the letter.

I am very much in agreement with Mr. Hoover as posted above. "Finally, I am very conservative in dishing out judgement to Christians who love Jesus but have reached conclusions other than what I have, and leave the casting "into outer darkness" to Him that can actually accomplish it."

There may be some things I choose to do or not to do that others agree or disagree with but some things are personal conviction. Some things are not always sin. To lump people into a category of filthy sinners b/c they may have different interpretations of things that they have prayed about and studied is insane to me.