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Guy 03-27-2007 07:17 AM

This Shocked Me - JTS to allow gays
 
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...inary-Gays.php

Conservative NYC Jewish seminary decides to accept gay students
The Associated PressPublished: March 27, 2007

NEW YORK: A conservative Jewish seminary announced that it had decided to accept gay and lesbian students into its rabbinical and cantorial schools, a move that could be as controversial as the decision to admit women to study to become rabbis 25 years ago.

The Jewish Theological Seminary in Manhattan made the decision after three months of debating the issue, the school announced Monday in a statement on its Web site.

"Convictions and feelings are strong on both sides," wrote Chancellor-elect Arnold M. Eisen in a letter to the seminary community posted on its Web site. "Some will cheer this decision as justice long overdue. Others will condemn it as a departure from Jewish law and age-old Jewish custom."

Rabbi Joel Roth of the Jewish Theological Seminary told WABC-TV that Jewish law forbids homosexual acts. "To have rabbis who reflect something that Jewish law forbids is almost an oxymoron," Roth told the TV station. "And it is on those grounds that I oppose the ordination of gay rabbis."

But seminary students told WABC-TV that they were in support of the decision. "Jewish law has never stood still," said Elizabeth Richman. "And we know from looking at our history that even things that it says in the Bible, Jewish tradition has changed according to its own legal traditions. We're confident that the conservative movement has found a way according to Jewish tradition to make changes."

The decision was effective immediately, the seminary announced.

Founded in 1886, the Jewish Theological Seminary is a major school for the teaching of rabbis in the Morningside Heights neighborhood of Manhattan.

Scott Hutchinson 03-27-2007 07:45 AM

Thank God that the types and shadows of the OT.were fulfilled in the new.
Judaism is a false religion so this isn't so surprizing.Without the Holy Ghost people will accept anything.

SDG 03-27-2007 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 53677)
Thank God that the types and shadows of the OT.were fulfilled in the new.
Judaism is a false religion so this isn't so surprizing.Without the Holy Ghost people will accept anything.

Do you mean some forms of modern judaism ... are false ... because last I checked Jesus was a Jew.

SDG 03-27-2007 07:52 AM

Being a New Yorker ... and having studied at Queens College which was filled w/ Conservative Jews and then at Touro College, a school run by Conservative Jews and Orthodox Jews, I find this surprising ... in some ways.

I'd expect this from the Reformed Jews. However, in New York anything is possible.

Scott Hutchinson 03-27-2007 07:53 AM

I mean the ceremonial law,but look in the genealogy of Christ you find gentiles.Also if you deny the divinity of Christ how can one be saved?
Judaism and NT. Christianity are not the same thing.

slave4him 03-27-2007 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 53680)
Do you mean some forms of modern judaism ... are false ... because last I checked Jesus was a Jew.

All forms of it are false unless they come by through the New convenant. Jesus being a jew doesnt mean that Judaism is correct today. Different dispensation then.

SDG 03-27-2007 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by slave4him (Post 53689)
All forms of it are false unless they come by through the New convenant. Jesus being a jew doesnt mean that Judaism is correct today. Different dispensation then.

Im not a dispensationalist ... in the manner that you are ... I think it's a different covenant ... some God-fearing Jews are living under that covenant and it is still valid in God's eyes .... there are some they have recognize the better covenant and Jesus as the Chosen One, the Messiah.

Scott Hutchinson 03-27-2007 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by slave4him (Post 53689)
All forms of it are false unless they come by through the New convenant. Jesus being a jew doesnt mean that Judaism is correct today. Different dispensation then.

I agree,why did the Jews in Paul's day fight him so hard,because what he taught tore up their belief system.The Talmud I understand isn't too kind towards Jesus Christ and his divinity.
Of course all people can become one in Christ.

Guy 03-27-2007 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 53683)
Being a New Yorker ... and having studied at Queens College which was filled w/ Conservative Jews and then at Touro College, a school run by Conservative Jews and Orthodox Jews, I find this surprising ... in some ways.

I'd expect this from the Reformed Jews. However, in New York anything is possible.

As I understand it this is a conservative although not orthodox school. That I think is why it surprised me.

Ron 03-27-2007 08:04 AM

I am not surprised at all. Seeing how things are going in the world, it is a whole lot more messed up then most of us realize.


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