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Weary Pilgrim 08-24-2008 07:23 PM

Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?
 
I noticed that Suber's church website has a statement of faith that sounds like a one stepper. I thought that might be shocking to his many fans. Of course it could be the statement from when it was under the previous pastor but I can't imagine that pastor giving the church to someone doctrinally different than himself.

Here is the church website;

http://faithtabernacleshreveport.org/

soldoutochrist 08-24-2008 08:17 PM

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weary Pilgrim (Post 574085)
I noticed that Suber's church website has a statement of faith that sounds like a one stepper. I thought that might be shocking to his many fans. Of course it could be the statement from when it was under the previous pastor but I can't imagine that pastor giving the church to someone doctrinally different than himself.

Here is the church website;

http://faithtabernacleshreveport.org/

…all believers should be buried with Christ Jesus in the waters of baptism (Acts 2:38, Rom. 6:3-5, Matt. 28:19).

…that the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the initial evidence of speaking in other tongues as the Spirit of God gives the utterance is an endowment of power given to the believer for sanctification and evangelism (Acts 1:8, 2:1-4, 19:1-2).

Rhoni 08-24-2008 08:29 PM

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?
 
Don't start this ...again. Bro. Jon Suber has not changed.

Get a life.

Blessings, Rhoni

TRFrance 08-24-2008 08:32 PM

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 574116)
Don't start this ...again. Bro. Jon Suber has not changed.

Get a life.

Blessings, Rhoni

Gee.. kinda harsh, aren't we?
I think it's a fair question to ask.

tv1a 08-24-2008 08:35 PM

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?
 
People always look for an excuse to tear down. Just wait until he begins to wears jeans and a t-shirt on Sunday Morning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 574116)
Don't start this ...again. Bro. Jon Suber has not changed.

Get a life.

Blessings, Rhoni


Sam 08-24-2008 08:40 PM

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 574119)
Gee.. kinda harsh, aren't we?
I think it's a fair question to ask.

Careful,
We can become a heresy hunter like Torquemada Hanegraff and suspect everybody and trust nobody.

Rhoni 08-24-2008 08:41 PM

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance (Post 574119)
Gee.. kinda harsh, aren't we?
I think it's a fair question to ask.

TR,

You might think so but this has been visited and revisited and I think we need to think on whatsoever things are true, holy, of a good report, if there be any virtue, if there be any praise...think on these things.

In Jesus name.

Jermyn Davidson 08-24-2008 08:41 PM

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tv1a (Post 574122)
People always look for an excuse to tear down. Just wait until he begins to wears jeans and a t-shirt on Sunday Morning.

I think it is a fair question when you (or your website) makes statements to make people wonder where you stand.


The burden of clarity rests with the speaker, not the listener (or reader in this case).

Rhoni 08-24-2008 08:44 PM

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?
 
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Originally Posted by 1399 (Post 574130)
I think it is a fair question when you (or your website) makes statements to make people wonder where you stand.


The burden of clarity rests with the speaker, not the listener (or reader in this case).

Any well-seasoned Pastor knows that when you take a new church you have to give the church time to adjust to you before making any changes. Let him have the privacy he needs to shape a ministry there without all the judgements and questions. Pray for the Pastor and his congregation but leave this off of the public forum.

Thank you.

tv1a 08-24-2008 08:48 PM

Re: Has Jon Suber embraced the One Step Doctrine?
 
The burden of proof should lie with the person who has so much time on their hands they have to look for controversies. That is why church websites should remove their doctrinal statements from their websites. Nobody but the insiders care what your doctrinal statement is. Can't recollect one person being saved because of a doctrinal statement. Can't recall a testimony of a person who was scrolling through a web site and read the doctrinal statement and said, "Yup, That's the church I want to attend."

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1399 (Post 574130)
I think it is a fair question when you (or your website) makes statements to make people wonder where you stand.


The burden of clarity rests with the speaker, not the listener (or reader in this case).



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