Apostolic Friends Forum

Apostolic Friends Forum (https://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/index.php)
-   The D.A.'s Office (https://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=65)
-   -   Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contraception? (https://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=18757)

SDG 09-21-2008 08:31 PM

Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contraception?
 
Wiki says it is Emergency contraception ...

Quote:

Emergency contraception (EC), or emergency postcoital contraception, refers to contraceptive measures that, if taken after intercourse, may prevent pregnancy.

Forms of EC include:

Emergency contraceptive pills (ECPs)—sometimes simply referred to as emergency contraceptives (ECs) or the "morning-after pill"—are drugs that act both to prevent ovulation or fertilization and possibly post-fertilization implantation of a blastocyst (embryo). ECPs are distinct from medical abortion methods that act after implantation.[1]

Intrauterine devices (IUDs)—usually used as a primary contraception method, but sometimes used as emergency contraception.

As its name implies, EC is intended for occasional use, when primary means of contraception fail. Since EC methods act before implantation, they are medically and legally considered forms of contraception. Some scientists believe that EC may possibly act after fertilization (see Mechanism of action).

Some religious conservatives consider EC to be an abortifacient.
What say ye?

ILG 09-21-2008 08:37 PM

Re: Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contracepti
 
The morning after pill may either prevent a pregnancy or it may keep a fertilized egg from implanting, which is the real issue. The question is, is a fertilized egg a baby before it implants? Some say since the life is in the blood that it is not. I frankly don't know.

mizpeh 09-21-2008 08:48 PM

Re: Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contracepti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 594559)
The morning after pill may either prevent a pregnancy or it may keep a fertilized egg from implanting, which is the real issue. The question is, is a fertilized egg a baby before it implants? Some say since the life is in the blood that it is not. I frankly don't know.

The life of the flesh is the blood.

When God gives the inner man is what would decide when an abortion becomes murder because death is a separation of the spirit from the body.

ILG 09-21-2008 08:52 PM

Re: Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contracepti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 594564)
The life of the flesh is the blood.

When God gives the inner man is what would decide when an abortion becomes murder because death is a separation of the spirit from the body.

You may be right. And if you are, I fear for many of us, because the birth control pill sometimes does the same thing. I was on the pill for three years and no one ever told me this.

SDG 09-21-2008 09:01 PM

Re: Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contracepti
 
Some ground rules .... and basic assumptions.

Most evangelicals and Pentecostals do not believe contraception is a sin. Emphasis on most.

Most of us believe that human life begins when a male and female gamete meet and the egg is fertilized ... (I think we can agree on this)

Both gametes do not contain blood nor does the initial zygote have a circulatory system ... (am I wrong on this?)

SDG 09-21-2008 09:05 PM

Re: Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contracepti
 
Other basic assumptions ....

- It can take up to 6 day for these gametes to meet and for the egg to fertilize.

- It takes up to 6 -10 days for this fertilized egg to completely implant itself in the lining of the uterus ... hence have a viable setting to grow healthily ...

Mrs. LPW 09-21-2008 09:05 PM

Re: Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contracepti
 
I don't know either... so that's why I stay completely away from something like that and would advise against it's use.

Most likely, a person needing that drug is not married to begin with... and has other issues to deal with. ;)

SDG 09-21-2008 09:06 PM

Re: Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contracepti
 
Other facts:

Most of the the time the morning after pill to be effective has to be taken within the first 72 hours after the contraception-less encounter.

SDG 09-21-2008 09:08 PM

Re: Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contracepti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 594564)
The life of the flesh is the blood.

When God gives the inner man is what would decide when an abortion becomes murder because death is a separation of the spirit from the body.

So are you saying that this zygote and the proceeding early stages is not a really alive as to qualify the act to be murder ... or in other words not until it has a human soul and this when the baby has a circulatory system?

When does this happen in the life of the embryo and/or fetus, Mizpeh?

ILG 09-21-2008 09:12 PM

Re: Morning After Pill? Sin? Abortion? Contracepti
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 594568)
Some ground rules .... and basic assumptions.

Most evangelicals and Pentecostals do not believe contraception is a sin. Emphasis on most.

Most of us believe that life begins when a male and female gamete meet and the egg is fertilized ... (I think we can agree on this)

Both gametes do not contain blood nor does the initial zygote have a circulatory system ... (am I wrong on this?)

There are different types of contraception. Some keep a fertilized egg from implantation just like the emergency contraception pill (which is different from RU486.)


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:47 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.