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Digging4Truth 04-01-2007 09:25 PM

It Is My Sincere Hope & Prayer That All Trinitarians Be Saved.
 
For new times sake....

God saves sinners.
God saves harlots
God saves trinitarians
God saves OP's

Scott Hutchinson 04-01-2007 09:27 PM

No one wants anybody to be lost.May all people find redemption so they won't have to face eternal punishment.

Steve Epley 04-01-2007 09:29 PM

I hpe atheists and Muslims and Hindus are saved BUT they won't be unless they obey the ONLY saving message.

Allan 04-01-2007 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 60794)
For new times sake....

God saves [/former] sinners.
God saves [/former] harlots
God saves [/former] trinitarians
God saves [/former] OP's

:haloplug

Digging4Truth 04-01-2007 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Allan (Post 60832)
:haloplug

So they must quit before he saves them?

They must become a former sinner before he will save them?
They must become a former harlots before he will save them?
They must become a former trinitarians before he will save them?
They must become a former oneness pentecostals before he will save them?

CC1 04-01-2007 10:28 PM

Since trinitarians ARE monotheist and not polytheist as many Oneness folks try to paint them, then why would a person's trinitarian view of the Godhead keep them from being saved?

Does the Bible say that one must have a full understanding of the Godhead to make heaven? (if so then we are all in big trouble)

Allan 04-02-2007 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 60858)
So they must quit before he saves them?

They must become a former sinner before he will save them?
They must become a former harlots before he will save them?
They must become a former trinitarians before he will save them?
They must become a former oneness pentecostals before he will save them?

'Former' as in "having once, or previously, been." Since "saves" is present tense, technically those he saves were, but are no more, sinners. etcetera.

To paraphrase: 'Jesus saves those who were [X].'

By your mention, it literally reads Jesus saves those who are in that current condition, and remain there.
(Though, I'm tired, and am uncertain how precise the thinker is tonight. Hehe, haha, oh my >_<.)


. . . About the last one (OP's): my bad. Though, rather than saying "former," another adjustment could be mentioned to bring about the same point as above. Seeing those in the book of Acts were added after they were repented, baptized in Jesus' name, and received the Holy Ghost (Acts 2:38-41).

Digging4Truth 04-02-2007 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allan (Post 60939)
'Former' as in "having once, or previously, been." Since "saves" is present tense, technically those he saves were, but are no more, sinners. etcetera.

To paraphrase: 'Jesus saves those who were [X].'

By your mention, it literally reads Jesus saves those who are in that current condition, and remain there.
(Though, I'm tired, and am uncertain how precise the thinker is tonight. Hehe, haha, oh my >_<.)


. . . About the last one (OP's): my bad. Though, rather than saying "former," another adjustment could be mentioned to bring about the same point as above. Seeing those in the book of Acts were added after they were repented, baptized in Jesus' name, and received the Holy Ghost (Acts 2:38-41).

Repentant.... understood.

Did the son of man not come to SAVE that which was LOST?

What are they being saved FROM is they aren't being saved from their sin... from their harlotry...etc

What would you tell someone who wanted to be saved but told you they weren't going to come to church until they were able to stop sinning?

God doesn't save FORMER sinners
God saves sinners.
And makes former sinners out of them.

If they could become FORMER sinners without Him then why did He die on the cross?

Steve Epley 04-02-2007 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 60858)
So they must quit before he saves them?

They must become a former sinner before he will save them?
They must become a former harlots before he will save them?
They must become a former trinitarians before he will save them?
They must become a former oneness pentecostals before he will save them?

Again you amaze me.

Digging4Truth 04-02-2007 08:06 AM

[QUOTE]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 61027)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
So they must quit before he saves them?

They must become a former sinner before he will save them?
They must become a former harlots before he will save them?
They must become a former trinitarians before he will save them?
They must become a former oneness pentecostals before he will save them?Again you amaze me.
Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveEpley
Again you amaze me.
In what way?

Elucidate.

What is it about the post that amazes you?

Impressed by my wisdom?
Blown away by my idiocy?

Too too vague bro.

Bump for Epley


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