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Dedicated Mind 11-12-2008 01:25 PM

Is Allah God?....Dragons?
 
Is Allah a general term which means "God" and can refer to the christian God? Or is Allah the God of muslims and Islam only?

What does the bible refer to when it mentions "dragon"? Is our modern concept of dragon the same one referred to in the bible. "Dragon" appears at least 18 times in the bible. "Dragons", plural, appears 16 times.

Antipas 11-12-2008 01:38 PM

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Allah is a very general term used for an ancient moon god in Arab paganism. Apparently, according to Muslims, Allah revealed to Muhammed (PBUH) that he alone is the only true God who revealed himself to Abraham and through Moses, the prophets, and Jesus. Interestingly enough Yeweh of the OT is indeed a lunar deity, this is why the Jewish calendar is on a lunar cycle.

I've heard different theories on "dragons" ranging from them being "spirits", dinosaurs, alligators, or actual mystical creatures.

nahkoe 11-12-2008 01:56 PM

Re: Is Allah God?....Dragons?
 
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 629484)
What does the bible refer to when it mentions "dragon"? Is our modern concept of dragon the same one referred to in the bible. "Dragon" appears at least 18 times in the bible. "Dragons", plural, appears 16 times.

There are three different words used for dragon/dragons.

One means a sea monster, a vast fish, a serpent, a dragon, a crocodile and is from the first definition given in the root that means to extend. There's a note in the root that says "Vast fish, so called from the length of which it extends."

The second word means jackal, wild dog. This is from the same root, the second definition given, which is "contention in running, as being done with outstretched neck, hence jackal, so called from it's swiftness in running.

The third, means habitations. It's from the same root as the other two though, and there's a note in here saying that some take it as jackals.

Sam 11-12-2008 02:13 PM

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Remember that when the KJV was translated, it picked up the current culture.

Things like "dragons" and demon "possession" reflect the culture of the time as does the expression "God save the king" used in the KJV when a person was elevated to the office of king.

Jermyn Davidson 11-12-2008 03:24 PM

Re: Is Allah God?....Dragons?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 629484)
Is Allah a general term which means "God" and can refer to the christian God? Or is Allah the God of muslims and Islam only?

What does the bible refer to when it mentions "dragon"? Is our modern concept of dragon the same one referred to in the bible. "Dragon" appears at least 18 times in the bible. "Dragons", plural, appears 16 times.

"allah" is a false god whose followers attempt to make our Savior a liar.

The followers of this religion are doomed for eternity unless they repent and honor the TRUE WORD of GOD with their lives, from their hearts.

Jesus IS, "the Christ, the Son of the Living GOD!"

Antipas 11-12-2008 08:40 PM

Re: Is Allah God?....Dragons?
 
I attended an Islamic service at the Islamic Center of Dayton when I was younger. I participated in a cleansing ceremony before entering the Mosque and had a great time. They were very warm and friendly. I was searching for answers. They gave me a Koran with commentary. It is in both Arabic and English, it also has notes like a Schofield Study Bible but for Muslims. It's actually quite beautiful.

Dedicated Mind 11-13-2008 12:59 PM

Re: Is Allah God?....Dragons?
 
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Originally Posted by Antipas (Post 629499)
Allah is a very general term used for an ancient moon god in Arab paganism. Apparently, according to Muslims, Allah revealed to Muhammed (PBUH) that he alone is the only true God who revealed himself to Abraham and through Moses, the prophets, and Jesus. Interestingly enough Yeweh of the OT is indeed a lunar deity, this is why the Jewish calendar is on a lunar cycle.

I've heard different theories on "dragons" ranging from them being "spirits", dinosaurs, alligators, or actual mystical creatures.

Would a christian bible in Arabic use the term Allah for God?

Dedicated Mind 11-13-2008 01:04 PM

Re: Is Allah God?....Dragons?
 
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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 629561)
Remember that when the KJV was translated, it picked up the current culture.

Things like "dragons" and demon "possession" reflect the culture of the time as does the expression "God save the king" used in the KJV when a person was elevated to the office of king.

So what is the correct interpretation or the intended meaning of the word dragon in the bible? Are you saying that modern day demon possession is different from the 1600's or even NT times?

berkeley 11-13-2008 04:07 PM

Re: Is Allah God?....Dragons?
 
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 630313)
Would a christian bible in Arabic use the term Allah for God?

Yes

Jermyn Davidson 11-13-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 630529)
Yes

How do we know this?

When I asked Muslims in Afghanistan about this, I could not get a straight answer, although, I think there were communication issues involved and not deception. :)


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