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Ron 11-19-2008 04:51 PM

What A Mess!
 
Okay, let's say for arguments sake that the New World Order & the coming of the Lord is a way off in the distance & we are stuck here to "eke" out an existence until Jesus returns, We are still in a mess!!!!

Talk on the talk radio is about the big three Auto Makers & thier struggle to keep out of Chapter 11!

Speculation now is that Congress & the Canadian Parliament will let them go into Chapter 11, restructure, & then look for somebody to come along and get it at a fire sale cost, & buyers will relocate those plants overseas.

What does that mean?

1. 2-3 million direct & indirect jobs will be gone.
2. Pensions (including benefits which are some of the best in North America) will be gone!
3. Who will be able to afford cars if we all work at 7-11?

We are in serious times where I believe we will pray for the coming of the Lord!

Digging4Truth 11-19-2008 05:12 PM

Re: What A Mess!
 
Tough times is a coming.

Bad things are coming but good things will come of it.

People will find God and family more important when all of their toys are gone.

Perhaps these very hard times we see coming will not bring the coming of the Lord... but it might, indeed, bring on the return of His people.

iceniez 11-19-2008 05:15 PM

Re: What A Mess!
 
My Dad worked for Chevy for 43 years and is looking at loosing his pension,health insurance. I think it is terrible.

Ron 11-19-2008 05:18 PM

Re: What A Mess!
 
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 635431)
Tough times is a coming.

Bad things are coming but good things will come of it.

People will find God and family more important when all of their toys are gone.

Perhaps these very hard times we see coming will not bring the coming of the Lord... but it might, indeed, bring on the return of His people.

I think you are right!

Ron 11-19-2008 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by iceniez (Post 635436)
My Dad worked for Chevy for 43 years and is looking at loosing his pension,health insurance. I think it is terrible.

I couldn't agree more!

I am a Chevy/GM man myself.

I like thier vehicles.

Digging4Truth 11-19-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by iceniez (Post 635436)
My Dad worked for Chevy for 43 years and is looking at loosing his pension,health insurance. I think it is terrible.

I am against all these bailouts...

But the human factor is my weakness...

Sometimes I am tempted to be for them just because the ones really losing out are those who deserve the loss the least.

Digging4Truth 11-19-2008 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 635442)
I am against all these bailouts...

But the human factor is my weakness...

Sometimes I am tempted to be for them just because the ones really losing out are those who deserve the loss the least.

Also... they are saying no to $28b out of $700b?

Drop in the bucket....

I am really tempted to be a fan of the automaker bailout.

This is going to hit a lot of people hard.... very very hard.

iceniez 11-19-2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 635447)
Also... they are saying no to $28b out of $700b?

Drop in the bucket....

I am really tempted to be a fan of the automaker bailout.

This is going to hit a lot of people hard.... very very hard.

Yes, in more ways than we think ,due to the trickel down.

Bowas 11-19-2008 05:45 PM

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How about instead of a corporate bail out the Government (you and I) gives to these companies, the Government gives you and I a tax credit of $5,000. for purchaseing a new car. It would immediately put Americans to work making cars, it wold fund the retirement accounts and the companies would be profitable again almost over night.
And for the housing situation, allow for a $20,000 tax credit for home purchases.
It would work and it would keep the government from holding companies and us as virtual hostages to the largess.
Spread the word!
It is so simple.

Light 11-19-2008 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 635447)
Also... they are saying no to $28b out of $700b?

Drop in the bucket....

I am really tempted to be a fan of the automaker bailout.

This is going to hit a lot of people hard.... very very hard.

To loan money to the big three would be wise. The one big reason the Republicans won't go along is because they want to bankrupt the unions.
If people will stop listening to republican propaganda and think for themselves,things would be different.

Toyota is non union with way lower wages yet their cars are priced the same as a comparable car made by the big three. Union wages are not the cause or even part of the cause.

Toyota put their plants in right to work states to avoid paying union wages.

Texas is a state where you have the right to work for some of the lowest wages of any state. Grown men working at our refineries in Corpus for $ 8.00 Hr. What a shame yet they vote republican. Go figure!!!:crazy


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