Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongues?
 

We know that miracles, healings, signs and wonders can be present in the lives of Christians who have not been filled with the Holy Spirit (with speaking in tongues as evidence). Also, prophecies were given by many who did not speak in tongues.

Here are the questions.

If we assume speaking in tongues at Holy Spirit baptism is a different and separate occurrence than speaking in tongues that are subsequently interpreted, is it then possible that one may "give a message in tongues" and not have been baptized with the Holy Spirit?

Does operating in this gift necessarily imply that the speaker also received the Holy Spirit? Why when one has the gift of healing or knowledge then does it not imply the same??

Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
 

Don't we normally declare someone has the Holy Ghost when they speak in tongues?

Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
 

It is also normally declared that speaking in tongues initially (at Holy Spirit baptism) is NOT THE SAME as the gift of tongues.

Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
 

A good question...

I always wondered, if it is expected to speak in tongues when one receives the HG, why is it also not required that that they be healers by laying on of hands when they receive. AFter all, it does say "these things shall follow" those who believe, right?

Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
 

No. No way. It can't happen. A person that does give a message in tongues either has the Holy Ghost, or is not really speaking in tongues by the Holy Ghost. People can fake speaking in tongues.

Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
 

Gifts of the Spirit are not operated in by those who don't first HAVE the Spirit.

Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
 

A resounding Amen!

Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
 

Is it possible for someone who has not spoken with tongues to have the Spirit dwelling in them? In other words, can Jesus come into a person's heart without that person speaking with tongues?

Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
 

No.

Re: Not Holy Spirit filled, Give Message in Tongue
 

Are you then saying those who have apparent gifts of healing, discernment, knowledge etc., yet do not speak in tongues, are also faking it?

Do we discount miracles if they occur in memberships of non Pentecostal churches?