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EA 01-21-2009 09:30 AM

Is the Holiness Movement Dead?
 
www.cresourcei.org/hmovement.html - 49k

Written by Keith Drury

"We need to admit to each other that the holiness movement is dead. We have never had a funeral. And we still have the body upstairs in bed. In fact, we still keep it dressed up and still even talk about the movement as if it were alive. But the holiness movement—as a movement—is dead. Yes, I recognize that there are many wonderful holiness people around. And people are still getting entirely sanctified here and there. But as a movement, I think we need to admit we are dead. The sooner we admit it, the better off we’ll be.

We have a holiness heritage. We have holiness denominations. We have holiness organizations. We have holiness doctrines. We even have holiness colleges, but we no longer have a holiness movement. I, for one, lament the death of the holiness movement. But pretending we are alive as a movement will not make it so. In fact, it may be the greatest barrier to the emergence of a new holiness movement."

EA 01-21-2009 09:31 AM

Re: Is the Holiness Movement Dead?
 
Do you believe the holiness movement is dead?

mizpeh 01-21-2009 09:34 AM

Re: Is the Holiness Movement Dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 687497)
Do you believe the holiness movement is dead?

What is the "holiness movement"? What defines it?

EA 01-21-2009 09:38 AM

Re: Is the Holiness Movement Dead?
 
From Wikipidia

The doctrine of the Conservative Holiness Movement varies slightly from group to group; however, the common thread between them is the belief that the carnal nature (or sin nature, depravity) can be cleansed (eradicated) through faith by the power of the Holy Spirit by one who has received salvation from God through the confession of sin, repentance and faith (See also holiness movement). This belief is also called, "entire sanctification" or a "second work of grace" that enables one to live a life set apart from the world.

The fundamental differences between its denominations and the mainstream (liberal) holiness movement in general are what define it as the Conservative Holiness Movement. These fundamental differences include but are not limited to standards of dress, fashion, and entertainment. In many cases the liberal churches are no longer a reflection of what they once were. Many even question their basic doctrines and beliefs that were once held as fundamental. The Conservative movement strives to remain true to Biblical doctrines and standards.

Innocuous 01-21-2009 09:39 AM

Re: Is the Holiness Movement Dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 687501)
What is the "holiness movement"? What defines it?

Yeah, sounds like he's talking about Wesleyan type holiness.

edjen01 01-21-2009 09:39 AM

Re: Is the Holiness Movement Dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 687501)
What is the "holiness movement"? What defines it?

exactly?

how many people does it take to start a "movement"? 1..2..100...1 million..???

What was the holiness movement made up of?

EA 01-21-2009 09:41 AM

Re: Is the Holiness Movement Dead?
 
Are Oneness Pentecostals still "holiness" people?

Is the concept of holiness unimportant to us?

Is ole time holiness preaching DOA?

edjen01 01-21-2009 09:43 AM

Re: Is the Holiness Movement Dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 687506)
From Wikipidia

The doctrine of the Conservative Holiness Movement varies slightly from group to group; however, the common thread between them is the belief that the carnal nature (or sin nature, depravity) can be cleansed (eradicated) through faith by the power of the Holy Spirit by one who has received salvation from God through the confession of sin, repentance and faith (See also holiness movement). This belief is also called, "entire sanctification" or a "second work of grace" that enables one to live a life set apart from the world.

The fundamental differences between its denominations and the mainstream (liberal) holiness movement in general are what define it as the Conservative Holiness Movement. These fundamental differences include but are not limited to standards of dress, fashion, and entertainment. In many cases the liberal churches are no longer a reflection of what they once were. Many even question their basic doctrines and beliefs that were once held as fundamental. The Conservative movement strives to remain true to Biblical doctrines and standards.

Wikipidia....really?? thats a reliable source??

not sure I want to get my facts about a subject from public opinion.

Sister Alvear 01-21-2009 09:43 AM

Re: Is the Holiness Movement Dead?
 
no, it is not dead...I still believe in clean living! ha...
Love you folks.

*AQuietPlace* 01-21-2009 09:44 AM

Re: Is the Holiness Movement Dead?
 
I think this minister means something entirely different by the word 'holiness' than most Apostolics do. Particularly conservative Apostolics.

No, it's most definitely not dead... in many areas it's going very strong. Way too strong in some places. :D


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