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citizen 02-26-2009 06:02 PM

Is Nationalization Un-American?
 
NATIONIALIZATION: public/government ownership of major parts of the economy

It's all around us and has been for years, for instance

- 45 million Americans rely on public power utilities for their electricity. Those utilities are nationalized - that is, they are owned and operated by government (in this case, municipal governments).
- the subway system, a commuter train like New Jersey Transit, a public bus or Amtrak?
- mailing letters through the U.S. Postal Service
- Veterans Administration providing a fully nationalized system
- In World War I, the nations' railroads were successfully nationalized to sustain the war effort.
- In the 1930s, the Reconstruction Finance Corp. bought millions of shares in over 6,000 banks in order to rescue them.
- During World War II, government took control of the economy's entire pricing system for consumer goods--a more complex job than taking over several big banks--and did quite well at it, most economists agree.
- In the 1980s, the Resolution Trust Corp. seized hundreds of failed savings and loans in order to save the system.
- After 9/11, the government effectively nationalized the private-security firms at airports, and replaced them with the federal TSA.

Something to think about.

Aquila 02-26-2009 07:51 PM

Re: Is Nationalization Un-American?
 
Nationalization can work and often does. But when nationalizing anything we must realize that nationalization is best as a temporary measure in most cases. There's a time for everything. At least that's my opinion.

Jaxon 02-26-2009 08:05 PM

Re: Is Nationalization Un-American?
 
Do you think TSA is better than the private security firms we had before 9/11? Keep in mind many security laws were enacted regarding aviation that were not there pre 9/11.
TSA has more teeth to it than private security was allowed.

Aquila 02-26-2009 08:19 PM

Re: Is Nationalization Un-American?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxon (Post 713458)
Do you think TSA is better than the private security firms we had before 9/11? Keep in mind many security laws were enacted regarding aviation that were not there pre 9/11.
TSA has more teeth to it than private security was allowed.

The TSA is far better than any private agency.

Digging4Truth 02-26-2009 09:14 PM

Re: Is Nationalization Un-American?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 713453)
Nationalization can work and often does. But when nationalizing anything we must realize that nationalization is best as a temporary measure in most cases. There's a time for everything. At least that's my opinion.

What percentage of authority that the federal government takes on do you think is temporary?

Seldom, if ever, do taxes levied or authority garnered go away.

Digging4Truth 02-26-2009 09:15 PM

Re: Is Nationalization Un-American?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxon (Post 713458)
Do you think TSA is better than the private security firms we had before 9/11? Keep in mind many security laws were enacted regarding aviation that were not there pre 9/11.
TSA has more teeth to it than private security was allowed.

LOL... yes... the lion does have more teeth.

Bowas 02-26-2009 10:50 PM

Re: Is Nationalization Un-American?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 713488)
What percentage of authority that the federal government takes on do you think is temporary?

Seldom, if ever, do taxes levied or authority garnered go away.

I am sure you know the income tax was only temporary.

Personal Income Tax Introduced in U.S. (1913): At first, income taxes were considered a temporary tax to help raise money for war.

http://history1900s.about.com/od/1910s/qt/incometax.htm

Digging4Truth 02-27-2009 07:06 AM

Re: Is Nationalization Un-American?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowas (Post 713545)
I am sure you know the income tax was only temporary.

Personal Income Tax Introduced in U.S. (1913): At first, income taxes were considered a temporary tax to help raise money for war.

http://history1900s.about.com/od/1910s/qt/incometax.htm

Indeed... and I am sure that, any day now, they will be informing us that they appreciate our cooperation but there is no more need for the income tax.

:ursofunny

A.W. Bowman 02-27-2009 10:58 AM

Re: Is Nationalization Un-American?
 
Back to the original question:

Just because something is done, or even allowed or tolorated, does not necessarily make it "American". But then again, just what is "American"?

Digging4Truth 02-27-2009 11:05 AM

Re: Is Nationalization Un-American?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HaShaliach (Post 713806)
Back to the original question:

Just because something is done, or even allowed or tolorated, does not necessarily make it "American". But then again, just what is "American"?

If something is "Christian" then it should be biblical. The Bible is the framing document for Christianity.

If something is "American" then it should be constitutional. The Constitution is the framing document for the federal government of these united States of America.

Nationalization is neither constitutional nor American.


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