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Sam 04-19-2009 09:13 PM

Moses' Wife or Wives
 
In Exodus 2:15-22 it says that Moses fled to Midian and married Zipporah, the daughter of Reul who was a priest there. In Exodus 3:1 Reul is called Jethro. After his call at the burning bush, Moses returned to Egypt with Zipporah and his two sons, ref Exodus 4:18-26 and on the way one of his sons was circumcised. Do we know why only one was circumcised and how old his sons were by then? In Exodus 18:1-27 we read about Jethro, Zipporah, and Moses' two sons joining up with them in the wilderness after the Exodus. It says that Moses had sent his wife and sons back some time (to Midian) before that. Jethro offered a sacrifice to YHWH and gave Moses advice on governing Israel and then returned to his own land. In Numbers 12:1 it says that Aaron and Miriam spoke against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman that he had married.

A couple of questions:
Is the Ethiopian wife mentioned in Numbers 12:1 the same wife as Zipporah that Moses had married in Midian? Or is this Ethiopian wife referenced in Numbers 12:1 a second wife for Moses?

Timmy 04-19-2009 10:39 PM

Re: Moses' Wife or Wives
 
Dunno.

Next question?

:D

TJJJ 04-20-2009 07:17 AM

Re: Moses' Wife or Wives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 739083)
In Exodus 2:15-22 it says that Moses fled to Midian and married Zipporah, the daughter of Reul who was a priest there. In Exodus 3:1 Reul is called Jethro. After his call at the burning bush, Moses returned to Egypt with Zipporah and his two sons, ref Exodus 4:18-26 and on the way one of his sons was circumcised. Do we know why only one was circumcised and how old his sons were by then? In Exodus 18:1-27 we read about Jethro, Zipporah, and Moses' two sons joining up with them in the wilderness after the Exodus. It says that Moses had sent his wife and sons back some time (to Midian) before that. Jethro offered a sacrifice to YHWH and gave Moses advice on governing Israel and then returned to his own land. In Numbers 12:1 it says that Aaron and Miriam spoke against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman that he had married.

A couple of questions:
Is the Ethiopian wife mentioned in Numbers 12:1 the same wife as Zipporah that Moses had married in Midian? Or is this Ethiopian wife referenced in Numbers 12:1 a second wife for Moses?

It was his 2cnd wife. The first, Zipporah, was a Midianite who are the modern day Saudis.

The second was a from Ethiopia, which is way across the straits from there. The two lands are fairly close, but are still different.

There is no talling what happened to Zipporah, or there sons. It is possible that she died, or that she stayed with her father, Jethro in Midian. I believe, personally, that she probably died thus freeing Moses from that covenant. But.. no proof, just conjecture.

TJJJ

LUKE2447 04-20-2009 11:27 AM

Re: Moses' Wife or Wives
 
Polygamy is not a sin, so stop acting like she had to die for him to marry another. nowhere in the OT law is it made a sin. Actually the law made rules concerning polygamy but not against.

Sam 04-20-2009 12:46 PM

Re: Moses' Wife or Wives
 
speaking of polygamy,
do you believe Mary (the mother of Jesus) was the only wife of Joseph?

Some believe Joseph was married before and had children and that he later married Mary and lived with her but had no sexual relations with her all his life. Is it possible that he had two wives at the same time, one more his age and then Mary as a child bride?

Timmy 04-20-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Moses' Wife or Wives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 739358)
speaking of polygamy,
do you believe Mary (the mother of Jesus) was the only wife of Joseph?

Some believe Joseph was married before and had children and that he later married Mary and lived with her but had no sexual relations with her all his life. Is it possible that he had two wives at the same time, one more his age and then Mary as a child bride?

Who would they say is the father of Jesus' brothers? Oh no! Don't tell me! More virgin births? :uhoh

Sam 04-20-2009 01:24 PM

Re: Moses' Wife or Wives
 
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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 739362)
Who would they say is the father of Jesus' brothers? Oh no! Don't tell me! More virgin births? :uhoh

Some believe the brothers and sisters of Jesus were children of Joseph and a wife before he married Mary. Some believe that wife died and he then married Mary. Some believe the brothers and sisters of Jesus were actually His cousins. The word "brother" was broadly used at that time to represent kinfolks.

Some Roman Catholics believe that Mary was a perpetual virgin. That she and Joseph never had sex together. The idea that the brothers of Jesus were from a previous marriage of Joseph or that they were cousins is compatible with that idea.

LUKE2447 04-20-2009 01:55 PM

Re: Moses' Wife or Wives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 739358)
speaking of polygamy,
do you believe Mary (the mother of Jesus) was the only wife of Joseph?

Some believe Joseph was married before and had children and that he later married Mary and lived with her but had no sexual relations with her all his life. Is it possible that he had two wives at the same time, one more his age and then Mary as a child bride?

speculation which is worth nothing!

edjen01 04-20-2009 02:28 PM

Re: Moses' Wife or Wives
 
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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 739394)
Some believe the brothers and sisters of Jesus were children of Joseph and a wife before he married Mary. Some believe that wife died and he then married Mary. Some believe the brothers and sisters of Jesus were actually His cousins. The word "brother" was broadly used at that time to represent kinfolks.

Some Roman Catholics believe that Mary was a perpetual virgin. That she and Joseph never had sex together. The idea that the brothers of Jesus were from a previous marriage of Joseph or that they were cousins is compatible with that idea.

right.....and they also believe that she(Mary) was born from a virgin also....so that makes two virgin births.

speaking of "words"....the word "virgin" has been challenged and many scholars simply believe that word could also be translated "young girl"....meaning not old....but there I go with that word thing again.

Sept5SavedTeen 04-20-2009 05:24 PM

Re: Moses' Wife or Wives
 
I would consider Moses as a polygamist. For further info, this chart might be helpful in locating other polygamists in the Bible:
http://www.biblicalpolygamy.com/polygamists/

As for Mary, I've heard, tradition say that Joseph was a widower, with children and then married Mary. I doubt Mary was a perpetual virgin. However, the Bible doesn't tell us that Joseph was married before Mary, either way.
Older siblings of JESUS, though, would prove Joseph as a widower.

-Bro. Alex


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