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Jermyn Davidson 04-21-2009 12:17 PM

Surviving Pirate
 
So what should be done with the 16 year old pirate who boarded an American vessel with the intent to negotiate the release of the American hostage?

Opinions wanted.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/...piracy_suspect

Ferd 04-21-2009 12:18 PM

Re: Surviving Pirate
 
Dude just won the lottery.

he was brought to America to stand trial.


I am betting the Obama admin will slap him on the hand, then give him a house in the "Burbs", citizenship, and a nice little income.

sigh.

Jermyn Davidson 04-21-2009 12:22 PM

Re: Surviving Pirate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 740038)
Dude just won the lottery.

he was brought to America to stand trial.


I am betting the Obama admin will slap him on the hand, then give him a house in the "Burbs", citizenship, and a nice little income.

sigh.



Why shouldn't he stand trial in Somalia for his crime?

He's not an American citizen.
Does America's sovereignty extend to our commercial interests around the world?

His trial in America poses another issue-- who will represent him?
Of course, who will pay for his representation? The Somali government?

Praxeas 04-21-2009 01:16 PM

Re: Surviving Pirate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 740036)
So what should be done with the 16 year old pirate who boarded an American vessel with the intent to negotiate the release of the American hostage?

Opinions wanted.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/...piracy_suspect

Corrupt him. Send him to Disneyland. Teach him english. Give him an American girlfriend......take him to the movies...whatever :ursofunny

Praxeas 04-21-2009 01:18 PM

Re: Surviving Pirate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 740042)
Why shouldn't he stand trial in Somalia for his crime?

He's not an American citizen.
Does America's sovereignty extend to our commercial interests around the world?

His trial in America poses another issue-- who will represent him?
Of course, who will pay for his representation? The Somali government?

why SHOULD he stand trial in Somalia? Where in Somalia? They have no real central government to begin with.

His crimes were against American citizens.

From what I gather the deeds were done in International waters. Should we have allowed the Afghanistan government deal with persuing and trying the 9/11 conspirators?

n david 04-21-2009 01:31 PM

Re: Surviving Pirate
 
Good stuff. He's not a US citizen, I'm not even sure the ship he and his dead pirates attacked was an American ship (American crew, yes, but not sure it was an American ship) - so how do we have jurisdiction in this case?

I think it's the adminstration trying to look tough. Unfortunately for the administration, this will be a case, I think, they will wish to fade away.

And yes, this young buck will be living the high life free as a bird in the US of A here soon.

Sam 04-21-2009 01:36 PM

Re: Surviving Pirate
 
send him to live with some of the NY or Hollywood liberals.
or give him a room in the White House and a monthly government check.
maybe put him on BHO's cabinet along with the other folks.

Ferd 04-21-2009 02:15 PM

Re: Surviving Pirate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 740042)
Why shouldn't he stand trial in Somalia for his crime?

He's not an American citizen.
Does America's sovereignty extend to our commercial interests around the world?

His trial in America poses another issue-- who will represent him?
Of course, who will pay for his representation? The Somali government?

because we have a triple liberal commie president who thinks it cool and urbane and believes such an act will make our eneimes love us!

Ferd 04-21-2009 02:16 PM

Re: Surviving Pirate
 
what we should have done was fly over Somolia and pushed him out of the plane with a note saying "dont attack American ships".


after he stopped bouncing, they could read the note and know better in the future.

Jermyn Davidson 04-21-2009 02:26 PM

Re: Surviving Pirate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 740128)
why SHOULD he stand trial in Somalia? Where in Somalia? They have no real central government to begin with.

His crimes were against American citizens.

From what I gather the deeds were done in International waters. Should we have allowed the Afghanistan government deal with persuing and trying the 9/11 conspirators?

The 9/11 conspirators were folks who were in America legally and did their crimes against Americans on American soil.



Shouldn't he stand trial in Somalia because he is a Somali citizen?

The crimes were not committed on American soil-- is the ship even American property?

The fact that Somalia has no government is a moot issue.


I don't think my tax dollars should be going to give this guy representation in our legal system.

How many thousands will be wasted on this guy? For what purpose?

Could he possibly get a fair trial in the first place? In fact, why would there even be a need for a trial? The only reason he was "captured" is that he was trying to negotiate the release of the hijacked American.

He's already guilty.


It would have been better for the young buck to have been killed than to have brought him back here.


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