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El Predicador 05-04-2009 02:57 PM

Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations
 
According to MicroTrends by Mark J. Penn

EVERY denomination that has espoused Women Pastors has had a drastic and long term DROP in membership.


I Tim 2:11-15

11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety

I Cor 14:35

And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church


Don't hate The Preacher for what is in the Word !!

KWSS1976 05-04-2009 03:04 PM

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They don't keep quiet in church all that shouting and stuff so why not let them preach they don't obey I COR 14:35.. So just let them preach...

El Predicador 05-04-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 745608)
They don't keep quiet in church all that shouting and stuff so why not let them preach they don't obey I COR 14:35.. So just let them preach...

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Originally Posted by El Predicador (Post 745605)

EVERY denomination that has espoused Women Pastors has had a drastic and long term DROP in membership.


Since the Bible doesn't seem to carry any weight, perhaps the reason quoted above is sufficient.

The ancient landmarks are there for a reason !

Sister Alvear 05-04-2009 03:13 PM

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Our church has grown and grown and grown...thank God for any man or woman that will reach souls.

Whoever said that did not study early Pentecostal history or early history of foreign Missions...

Cindy 05-04-2009 03:15 PM

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I don't believe it has anything to do with women preaching. I think it's because they can watch TV or use the internet instead of going to church.

HeavenlyOne 05-04-2009 03:36 PM

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I don't know where that guy got his info, but many churches standing today were started by women preachers and pastors. I know of a church that ran 500 while a woman was pastor. Today, it runs about 150 underneath the same male pastor that took over that church after her death several years ago.

My grandma is Methodist and has had a woman pastor for several years, even though it's been different pastors. Her church has also grown.

Praxeas 05-04-2009 07:38 PM

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I don't believe in woman pastors but this verse has nothing to do with the topic.

You have to understand the context of the time and culture. Women were not allowed to learn at all. The Christian church changed that.

The setting is "learning", while in church during teaching they were not to speak.

From what I have heard before, churches were segregated with men on one side and women on the other. Women were not the loud boisterous types we have come to all known and love today :-)

Rather they were the kind that kept to themselves and deferred to the husband.

And so at church they were asking their husbands questions and disrupting the lesson. Paul is saying that they should wait and ask at home.

1Ti 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection

1Co 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Timmy 05-04-2009 07:56 PM

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The Assemblies of God has ordained women pastors for many decades. I don't think it has suffered, as a result. (Not in membership numbers, anyway. :lol)

LUKE2447 05-04-2009 09:12 PM

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Women can minister but not teach in a setting over men in which they are acting over heads of homes ala church setting. They can teach 60% of the population but not over men.

RandyWayne 05-04-2009 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447 (Post 745730)
Women can minister but not teach in a setting over men in which they are acting over heads of homes ala church setting. They can teach 60% of the population but not over men.

I am not sure what your saying here, not that you care what I think..... Are you saying that no adult male can have a woman as a teacher?


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