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We have this person at chuch that has cancer well this person has stood up and testified god healed them of there cancer so sometimes goes by cancer is not gone now why would someone say this if they knew that it really did not happen I hate this person has cancer but it really looks stupid that they tesified god healed them when he really did not...This person did get a good report when there cancer was "gone" so why did god bring it back if he healed them?? any ideas

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The person is by faith claiming their healing.

Continue to agree with them in prayer and trust God,

but take another aspirin too if it still hurts.

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But there Cancer came back so God never really healed them...

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What happened could be the result any number of reasons:

(1) God healed this person, but this person returned to a sin and God brought back the malady;

(2) God healed this person, but the Grace of God is being revealed in this person's life as He carries this person through this time of trial and testing; or

(3) God's Grace is being manifested through this person's trial and He is using it to increase someone else's faith who will be tested in the future.


I am sure there could be other reasons.

So when was the last time you fasted and prayed for your brother's/sister's healing?

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Chances are they see it as a statement "of faith" and "claiming their healing". I don't ascribe to those tactics personally, in fact it smacks of forcing the hand of God (as if we could).

However, when someone is hurting we should work within their mindset to provide comfort. I try to speak positive to these people, yet do not make any claims that may later be proven as nothing other than false hopes.

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Why do you assign the cancer coming back to God bringing it back. Every read John 10:10?

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Yeah Thomas, that would be crazy to believe that we have received something when we can't physically see it


1 John 5:14-15

14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

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Even atheists have experienced cancer going into remission and even received a "cancer free" bill of health, only to have the cancer return. I think that sometimes things are just life. Life happens. Miracles are one of the most misunderstood things in Christendom and Pentecost has really worked a number on the theology of miracles. Most people fail to realize that miracles are rare... that's why they are miracles. People also fail to realize that God doesn't perform miracles because we want him to or because it would relieve us of pain or hardship. Miracles, biblically speaking, always serve a purpose. If one studies the Bible and performs a comparative study of Israel's history they will discover that miracles generally take place during times of great revival in the wake of a message from God. This has often served to validate the message. Then one will see that after that message was given miraculous happenings appeared to become few and far between... sometimes appearing to cease entirely. We see miracles in the wake of Moses' delivering the Law and liberating the children of Israel... then in the time of Judges miracles became rather sparse. Then we see a revival of miracles during the time of the prophets, especially in the wake of the ministries of Elijah and Elisha. Then we see miracles wane again. Then we see an increase of miracles in the wake of Christ's ministry and the ministry of the church, then miracles waned again. Subsequently we've seen miraculous outbreaks of miracles scattered here and there in revivals where God was speaking in moving. Miracles are about the message, will, and plan of God. It's not about us. It's not about our comfort, health, or desires. It's entirely based upon his grace and God's ultimate plan.

That's my take. God bless.

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You are right on target. THE KEY is not "claiming" things WE want, but rather discovering and submitting to the will of God "we ask any thing according to his will".

While Thomas did require more "proof" it most certainly was not the other disciples "claiming" the ressurection of Christ that caused it to happen - on the contrary, he rose in spite of humanity believing or disbelieving...