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clgustaveson 05-31-2009 07:25 PM

Is baptism essential unto salvation?
 
Ok, before I make any statements, I am sure this has been hashed out many times on this forum. I don't simply want to reread other discussions, so please humor me...

Is baptism essential to be saved? This isn't a question of whether baptism in Jesus name is essential, so lets not turn this into a massive debate on Jesus name or FSHG... I just want to know if baptism is essential...

Sam 05-31-2009 07:44 PM

Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
 
There are several "bapstisms" mentioned in the Scriptures. Ref Hebrews 6:2. We can't even agree among ourselves how many baptisms there are and if any or all of them are essential unto salvation.

clgustaveson 05-31-2009 07:47 PM

Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 754997)
There are several "bapstisms" mentioned in the Scriptures. Ref Hebrews 6:2. We can't even agree among ourselves how many baptisms there are and if any or all of them are essential unto salvation.

That was not the question... you can't say, well there are so many so we cant agree... I am simply asking if full water submersion with the invocation of some name is required for salvation.

This isn't a debate about OT baptisms -- not ritual washings or cleanings.

I think you know what I am asking, just answer what you believe and explain why.

OnTheFritz 05-31-2009 08:16 PM

Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clgustaveson (Post 754999)
That was not the question... you can't say, well there are so many so we cant agree... I am simply asking if full water submersion with the invocation of some name is required for salvation.

This isn't a debate about OT baptisms -- not ritual washings or cleanings.

I think you know what I am asking, just answer what you believe and explain why.

I think Sam's point is that just by asking for a simple answer doesn't mean there is one. Thus the rehashing. The long drawn out threads are long and drawn out for a reason.

For the record, I believe that I don't know. I certainly wouldn't want to risk not being baptized. How's that? ;)

Timmy 05-31-2009 08:23 PM

Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
 
No.

El Predicador 05-31-2009 08:34 PM

Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
 
Baptism is a commandment not a suggestion.

Reject it and you will go to hell.

Nothing to discuss.

Light 05-31-2009 08:41 PM

Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by El Predicador (Post 755023)
Baptism is a commandment not a suggestion.

Reject it and you will go to hell.

Nothing to discuss.

Yes Baptism is a commandment not a suggestion.


Those that reject it will go to hell.

Those that use the titles in baptism will go to hell.

Nothing to discuss.

Theophil 05-31-2009 08:42 PM

Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clgustaveson (Post 754992)
Ok, before I make any statements, I am sure this has been hashed out many times on this forum. I don't simply want to reread other discussions, so please humor me...

Is baptism essential to be saved? This isn't a question of whether baptism in Jesus name is essential, so lets not turn this into a massive debate on Jesus name or FSHG... I just want to know if baptism is essential...

Yes.

Hoovie 05-31-2009 09:05 PM

Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
 
Water baptism is an essential part of initiation into the church for a new believer.

Timmy 05-31-2009 09:08 PM

Re: Is baptism essential unto salvation?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 755043)
Water baptism is an essential part of initiation into the church for a new believer.

Is that a yes or a no? :foottap


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