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ILG 06-15-2009 09:24 AM

Changing Standards
 
What is your experience?

Hoovie 06-15-2009 09:41 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
Well most know me and my story... raised conservative Mennonite and now OP - so I guess I have always been around "Standards" we just did not refer to them as such. By no means do I now, or have I believed all the "standards" are salvific in nature.

Again a thread like this needs to be defined... are we talking dress codes or more? Most everyone has some standards they live by.

ILG 06-15-2009 09:46 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 760703)
Well most know me and my story... raised conservative Mennonite and now OP - so I guess I have always been around "Standards" we just did not refer to them as such. By no means do I now, or have I believed all the "standards" are salvific in nature.

Again a thread like this needs to be defined... are we talking dress codes or more? Most everyone has some standards they live by.

This is why I used the term "outward standards", meaning rules that are outward in nature. I do not swear, do not have a hooked up television, etc., but I voted as not having , then having, then left off having because my church has no rules about this.

Hoovie 06-15-2009 09:57 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 760709)
This is why I used the term "outward standards", meaning rules that are outward in nature. I do not swear, do not have a hooked up television, etc., but I voted as not having , then having, then left off having because my church has no rules about this.

You and I understand the code language. :) But there are many that dress in moderation, don't smoke or drink alcohol, don't wear tatoos or string bikinis - all outward standards.

ILG 06-15-2009 10:00 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 760718)
You and I understand the code language. :) But there are many that dress in moderation, don't smoke or drink alcohol, don't wear tatoos or string bikinis - all outward standards.

Okay.....dress standards imposed by a church. (Now someone will say "But they are not imposed!!!" :D)

Baron1710 06-15-2009 10:00 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 760718)
You and I understand the code language. :) But there are many that dress in moderation, don't smoke or drink alcohol, don't wear tatoos or string bikinis - all outward standards.

I dress in moderation...I only wear clothes now and then.

ManOfWord 06-15-2009 10:09 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
I still have outward standards, just not like before.....speedos notwithstanding! :D

ILG 06-15-2009 10:11 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 760730)
I still have outward standards, just not like before.....speedos notwithstanding! :D

They only count if they are written in a manual handed you by your higher-ups! :D (Or by oral tradition, like skirts on women!!)

Hoovie 06-15-2009 10:16 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 760720)
Okay.....dress standards imposed by a church. (Now someone will say "But they are not imposed!!!" :D)

Well I am not trying to make it difficult, but it really is. We have many that come to church without complying with all the dress "standards" - both at church and at home. They can take communion and be actively involved with worship. Does it limit their capacity to minister in the church body? Quite possibly, but then the same is the case in many churches that are seen as nonstandards churches. For example, Sherri's church has a rather extensive list of do's and don'ts for their church leadership and platform.

ILG 06-15-2009 10:20 AM

Re: Changing Standards
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 760733)
Well I am not trying to make it difficult, but it really is. We have many that come to church without complying with all the dress "standards" - both at church and at home. does this limit their capassity to minister in the church body? Quite possibly, but then the same is the case in many churches that are seen as nonstandards churches. for example, Sherri's church has a rather extensive list of do's and don'ts for their church leadership and platform.

I would count them as not having outward standards.


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