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The Only Way 07-24-2009 03:34 PM

Is Conservatism Wrong?
 
I would just like to get your collective thoughts on this, but in the arguement of liberalism vs. conservatism, I find that people can make claims for both sides, but I would like to propose something! Is it wrong to be a "conservative?" I think this would be my main point... But are you more likely to make it to Heaven as a "conservative" than you are a "liberal?" If your answer is yes, then why not? And mind you, being a conservative includes not having a holier then thou attitude! Why would you not increase your chances of a sure passage to Heaven? And if you answer is no, then give me your reasons! I'd like to get everybody's thoughts on this. Open for discussion!

hometown guy 07-24-2009 03:38 PM

Re: Is Conservatism Wrong?
 
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Originally Posted by The Only Way (Post 777307)
I would just like to get your collective thoughts on this, but in the arguement of liberalism vs. conservatism, I find that people can make claims for both sides, but I would like to propose something! Is it wrong to be a "conservative?" I think this would be my main point... But are you more likely to make it to Heaven as a "conservative" than you are a "liberal?" If your answer is yes, then why not? And mind you, being a conservative includes not having a holier then thou attitude! Why would you not increase your chances of a sure passage to Heaven? And if you answer is no, then give me your reasons! I'd like to get everybody's thoughts on this. Open for discussion!

Yes it is wrong to be a conservative...................ON AFF :ursofunny

TJJJ 07-24-2009 03:39 PM

Re: Is Conservatism Wrong?
 
The Bible says: Straight is the way and narrow is the gate and few there be that find it!

This has always been and always will be a narrow minded walk!

Definently, you need to be conservative to be saved!





What defines that is the question!

Scott Hutchinson 07-24-2009 03:42 PM

Re: Is Conservatism Wrong?
 
I think we need to be Christian and follow Christ and His teachings.
I think we need not to worry all of these labels so much and make sure we are sold out to Christ and that we are submitted to His Lordship.

OnTheFritz 07-24-2009 03:46 PM

Re: Is Conservatism Wrong?
 
I don't think being conservative is wrong at all. But I don't think it (in and of itself) increases your chances of sure passage to heaven (that's a whole other debate). And keep in mind that many on here that claim to be liberal (like me), don't think people shouldn't be conservative. The big debate on this board revolves around the blending of conservative "guidelines" and actual doctrine. The intertwining and tangling of the two is what creates the most conflict.

TJJJ 07-24-2009 03:49 PM

Re: Is Conservatism Wrong?
 
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Originally Posted by OnTheFritz (Post 777322)
I don't think being conservative is wrong at all. But I don't think it (in and of itself) increases your chances of sure passage to heaven (that's a whole other debate). And keep in mind that many on here that claim to be liberal (like me), don't think people shouldn't be conservative. The big debate on this board revolves around the blending of conservative "guidelines" and actual doctrine. The intertwining and tangling of the two is what creates the most conflict.

What I have seen with many conservatives, and I speak as an ultracon, is that whatever you are doing is wrong and what I think is right is right!

Golf is wrong (because I don't golf) but hunting is right (because I hunt)

I am against that thinking and brand of conservatism.

Sister Alvear 07-24-2009 03:51 PM

Re: Is Conservatism Wrong?
 
Driving a car is wrong... ask the old older Amish..

hometown guy 07-24-2009 03:52 PM

Re: Is Conservatism Wrong?
 
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 777314)
I think we need to be Christian and follow Christ and His teachings.
I think we need not to worry all of these labels so much and make sure we are sold out to Christ and that we are submitted to His Lordship.

This is a liberal way of thinking. Of course it would be nice but we don’t live in fantasy land and we need labels to know who and what people are. Can you image in politics if there was no republic or democratic titles we would not have a clue what there basic principles were during elections. (I know there is always exceptions. We will not know everyone by their label. I hope I don’t have to clarify everything)

GrowingPains 07-24-2009 03:52 PM

Re: Is Conservatism Wrong?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Only Way (Post 777307)
I would just like to get your collective thoughts on this, but in the arguement of liberalism vs. conservatism, I find that people can make claims for both sides, but I would like to propose something! Is it wrong to be a "conservative?" I think this would be my main point... But are you more likely to make it to Heaven as a "conservative" than you are a "liberal?" If your answer is yes, then why not? And mind you, being a conservative includes not having a holier then thou attitude! Why would you not increase your chances of a sure passage to Heaven? And if you answer is no, then give me your reasons! I'd like to get everybody's thoughts on this. Open for discussion!

It's a silly premise, to be honest.

One would call me an extreme liberal, and another would call me someone of the Radical Right, hardcore conservative. It's so subjective and relative.

I don't approach God with "how much can I do to ensure I make it to heaven." His blood and atonement in enough for that. I approach Him "what do you like? What pleases you? Do I please you? I love you!" That's the differences in how some folks define holiness.

Scott Hutchinson 07-24-2009 03:53 PM

Re: Is Conservatism Wrong?
 
Would driving a car to church or to the grocery store,be ok ?
But driving a car in the demolition derby be wrong ?


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