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Paul Harvey 09-30-2009 08:13 AM

10.01.09-The End of Haneywood - D. Bernard New GS
 
There is significant speculation and internal chatter that the GS will not garner the 2/3 vote necessary to continue at the helm.

With the formation of the newest PAC "We Declare", some believe that they may have the wherewithal to form a voting bloc, even in it's nascent phase, and may very well have marching orders from some in positions of influence to vote a certain way.

Will the mothership be going to the Mooney?
Or will she settle in Bernardville?

Stay tuned to updates on the business meetings here:
http://www.unitedpentecostal.net/gc2009/news.asp

TJJJ 09-30-2009 08:22 AM

Re: 10.01.09 - The End of Haneywood?
 
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Originally Posted by Paul Harvey (Post 809098)
There is significant speculation and internal chatter that the GS will not garner the 2/3 vote necessary to continue at the helm.

With the formation of the newest PAC "We Declare", some believe that they may have the wherewithal to form a voting bloc, even in it's nascent phase, and may very well have marching orders from some in positions of influence to vote a certain way.

Will the mothership be going to the Mooney?
Or will she settle in Bernardville?

Stay tuned to updates on the business meetings here:
http://www.unitedpentecostal.net/gc2009/news.asp

Ah, come on Paul....

Alls that happens at the vatican is that the name of the pope changes!

It is still catholicism!

Although I will admit that haney seems to have taken the u pay cash to the left fairly quick! Old urshan seemed to have the nack to hold the cons and the libs together but KH was a polorizing personality that helped drive the factions apaart with his apparent unconcern with other opinions!

Paul Harvey 09-30-2009 08:39 AM

Re: 10.01.09 - The End of Haneywood?
 
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Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 809107)
Ah, come on Paul....

Alls that happens at the vatican is that the name of the pope changes!

It is still catholicism!

Although I will admit that haney seems to have taken the u pay cash to the left fairly quick! Old urshan seemed to have the nack to hold the cons and the libs together but KH was a polorizing personality that helped drive the factions apaart with his apparent unconcern with other opinions!

TJJJ, are you saying that if you had to characterize the Haney tenure in one word it would be "APATHETIC"? How so? Instances?

He did not seem apathetic about the "message" in his message last year to the Conference entitled "Upon this Rock".

He seems pretty anchored in the message being the "only thing that really matters" and what "separates of from the rest of the religious world" in this special invitation to the first night of conference.

http://vidego.multicastmedia.com/player.php?p=qpt4347a

Light 09-30-2009 09:16 AM

Re: 10.01.09 - The End of Haneywood?
 
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Originally Posted by Paul Harvey (Post 809115)
TJJJ, are you saying that if you had to characterize the Haney tenure in one word it would be "APATHETIC"? How so? Instances?

He did not seem apathetic about the "message" in his message last year to the Conference entitled "Upon this Rock".

He seems pretty anchored in the message being the "only thing that really matters" and what "separates of from the rest of the religious world" in this special invitation to the first night of conference.

http://vidego.multicastmedia.com/player.php?p=qpt4347a


What one preaches at open meetings and what one really believes are often different. This is often the case with those in power. A person should be judged on his or her actions and not on their words, words are cheap.

EA 09-30-2009 09:29 AM

Re: 10.01.09 - The End of Haneywood?
 
It will be an interesting election tomorrow.

Brother Haney MIGHT be reelected.

But if not, look for three names to be mentioned as his replacement.

Mooney, Bernard and Graham.

rgcraig 09-30-2009 09:30 AM

Re: 10.01.09 - The End of Haneywood?
 
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 809140)
It will be an interesting election tomorrow.

Brother Haney MIGHT be reelected.

But if not, look for three names to be mentioned as his replacement.

Mooney, Bernard and Graham.

I know Graham signed the wedeclare - - did Mooney and Bernard?

Kim Komando 09-30-2009 09:35 AM

Re: 10.01.09 - The End of Haneywood?
 
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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 809141)
I know Graham signed the wedeclare - - did Mooney and Bernard?

Mooney and Bernard, no doubt, believe the tenets of WeDeclare, but as members of the upper echolon, it would not be expedient for them to make such a public display, in my opinion.

We do know that Mooney spearheaded the campaign and committee targeting the "emergents".

And unconfirmed sources say Bernard was approached with the concept of WeDeclare before it was launched and gave his "unofficial" blessing.

May I add - Graham, doesn't have a snowball's chance.

n david 09-30-2009 09:49 AM

Re: 10.01.09 - The End of Haneywood?
 
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Originally Posted by Kim Komando (Post 809145)
Mooney and Bernard, no doubt, believe the tenets of WeDeclare, but as members of the upper echolon, it would not be expedient for them to make such a public dislay, in my opinion.

We do know that Mooney spearheaded the campaign and committee targeting the "emergents".

And unconfirmed sources say Bernard was approached with the concept of WeDeclare before it was launched and gave his "unofficial" blessing.

May I add - Graham, doesn't have a snowball's chance.

If Mooney gets it, the UPC will have another split. Moderates and especially lib won't have a chance. He'll kick them all out before they have a chance to hand in their licenses. The org will splinter and have even more division ... but once he cleans house, things will settle down.

Not sure how DB would be. Graham I don't see as a GS ... he was my teacher @ Gateway, and I know he's expanded his role since then and is quite popular ... but I still can't see him in the role of GS.

I'd like to see AM as the UPC GS ... but I doubt that would happen.

MissBrattified 09-30-2009 10:31 AM

Re: 10.01.09 - The End of Haneywood?
 
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Originally Posted by n david (Post 809152)
If Mooney gets it, the UPC will have another split. Moderates and especially lib won't have a chance. He'll kick them all out before they have a chance to hand in their licenses. The org will splinter and have even more division ... but once he cleans house, things will settle down.

Not sure how DB would be. Graham I don't see as a GS ... he was my teacher @ Gateway, and I know he's expanded his role since then and is quite popular ... but I still can't see him in the role of GS.

I'd like to see AM as the UPC GS ... but I doubt that would happen.

:spit

Barb 09-30-2009 10:43 AM

Re: 10.01.09 - The End of Haneywood?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 809152)
If Mooney gets it, the UPC will have another split. Moderates and especially lib won't have a chance. He'll kick them all out before they have a chance to hand in their licenses. The org will splinter and have even more division ... but once he cleans house, things will settle down.

Not sure how DB would be. Graham I don't see as a GS ... he was my teacher @ Gateway, and I know he's expanded his role since then and is quite popular ... but I still can't see him in the role of GS.

I'd like to see AM as the UPC GS ... but I doubt that would happen.

My personal choice would be for AM...

What is needed is someone with the heart and wisdom of NAU...as someone posted, he knew how to hold the different views together.


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