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EA 01-03-2010 04:40 PM

>>>"It's All Just a Game."
 
"It's all just a game."

That's what a preacher told me, fifteen years ago, immediately after turning in his license with the UPC, and walking away from Oneness Pentecostalism for good.

At the time I thought he must just be bitter over something, and that maybe he was looking to justify a desire to "go Charismatic." After all, why would someone just up and walk away, after being raised in this his whole life, pastoring for decades, and raising his kids in this way? It just didn't seem right, and I was sure he was just plain bitter and backslidden.

Over time, I watched him sever all ties with this way, walking away from every friend and association he previously held dear. It bothered me. After all, if a seasoned minister was succeptible to this sort of radical change, could I fall prey to the pull of gradualism, as well?

As a twenty-something, I listened as my contemporaries spoke of him with contempt.

"Compromiser."

"Backslider."

"Charismatic."

"Liberal."


To my knowledge, not one of them had ever spoken with him about his decision, what led him to leave, and why he considered this way a game. Still, I listened to them, and assumed their assessment must be right.
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Years passed, and I didn't see or hear from the fallen minister at all. You know how it works. Over time, he was forgotten. Written off. It was as if he had fallen off the face of the earth. Not even worthy of discussion unless someone was preaching a "Trophies of Hell" message.

And as fifteen years have flown by, I've watched the guys who viciously maligned this man follow the same road he travelled.

The reasons they walked away were varied, but all who left spoke with one voice. "It's just a game!"

And now I have been around long enough to understand what they meant.

When a man is serious about his relationship with God, and is passionate about knowing Truth, he searches everything out, questioning everything he's been taught with the goal of defending, strengthening and teaching that which he has been given.

Along the way, in Oneness Pentecostalism, he is apt to find numerous inconsistencies and hypocricies. This is the case in most every religion, and I understand well that we are not alone in duplicity.

However, at a certain age, men start to realize that there is probably less life ahead of them than behind them. The scale of life starts to tip, and eternity comes into full view. At this point, Truth becomes paramount, and ministries are reconfigured to reveal "necessary things" with no regard for fluff.

When this sort of rebirth occurs, one can find oneself on the outside looking in, a pariah to those with whom he found comfort and sanctuary in times past. At this point, he is confronted with a harsh reality. He is forced to prove what he values most - friendships, or Truth.

If he is honest with himself and God, and relinquishes doctrines of men, he will lose everything familiar. If he squelches inner truth, he will survive in his organization, and maintain acceptance within his social circle - at the expense of a good conscience.

And all the while he struggles inwardly, he is confronted with published doctrines that many trumpet, but few live by. He is faced with the glaring inconsistencies of decades-old standards that are loosely maintained through peer pressure and legalistic control. He begins to realize that his life is more about presentation than relationship, conformity than Truth and acceptance than Christ-following.

At this point, he realizes that this way can become a game, the goal of which is to restrain oneself, swallowing all of the inconsistencies and denying much of what you have discovered in the Word that turns previously held beliefs on their head.

All to maintain peace with, and respect amongst, peers.

rgcraig 01-03-2010 04:44 PM

Re: >>>"It's All Just a Game."
 
Good words!

Hoovie 01-03-2010 05:01 PM

Re: >>>"It's All Just a Game."
 
WOW! You have said alot there, and some I can identify with.

I think you should acknowledge a couple things.

Of these that have, are, or will fall away, there are those that have indeed become Compromisers, Backsliden, Name and Claim Charismatic, or downright Liberal in all their theology. Still leaves no room for false accusation, but those examples do exist.

There are also those who attend a conservative OP church, and still reject the inordinate fixation on conformity and presentation. Not all conservatives find themselves at the crossroad you describe. Not exactly sure why - but I think many of those ARE being honest, and never experience the "rebirth" or feel they "squelch inner truth". Perhaps that is because not all bought into the extreme aspects of sectarianism early on in their experience.

EA 01-03-2010 05:04 PM

Re: >>>"It's All Just a Game."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 858602)
WOW! You have said alot there, and some I can identify with.

I think you should acknowledge a couple things.

Of these that have, are, or will fall away, there are those among them that have become "Compromisers, Backslidin, Name and Claim Charismatic, or downright Liberal in all their theology". Still leaves no room for false accusation, but those examples do exist.

There are also those who attend a conservative OP church, and still reject the inordinate fixation on conformity and presentation. Not all conservatives find themselves at the crossroad you describe. Not exactly sure why - but I think many of those ARE being honest, and never experience the "rebirth" or feel they "squelch inner truth". Perhaps that is because not all bought into the extreme aspects of sectarianism early on in their experience.

Of course you're right.

I was one of those who "bought into" the extreme aspects.

As I've always said, I have nary a problem with the overwhelming majority of standards. My problem is with the presentation.

Sam 01-03-2010 05:06 PM

Re: >>>"It's All Just a Game."
 
Good words, EA.

Hoovie 01-03-2010 05:09 PM

Re: >>>"It's All Just a Game."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 858604)
Of course you're right.

I was one of those who "bought into" the extreme aspects.

As I've always said, I have nary a problem with the overwhelming majority of standards. My problem is with the presentation.

I also acknowledge the situation is more complicated when one is a licensed minister vs a nominal constituent.

Pro31:28 01-03-2010 05:10 PM

Re: >>>"It's All Just a Game."
 
The Emperors New Clothes

Raven 01-03-2010 05:27 PM

Re: >>>"It's All Just a Game."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Anglin (Post 858596)
"It's all just a game."

At this point, he realizes that this way can become a game, the goal of which is to restrain oneself, swallowing all of the inconsistencies and denying much of what you have discovered in the Word that turns previously held beliefs on their head.

All to maintain peace with, and respect amongst, peers.[/COLOR]

Very good thoughts EA! Your words could and will be echoed by many others. It is encouraging to witness the "awakening" that is happening at this time.

RevDWW 01-03-2010 07:07 PM

Re: >>>"It's All Just a Game."
 
Do you think for some the game becomes real life, the means to the end becomes the end in and of itself, and the journey becomes more important than the destination?

BeenThinkin 01-03-2010 07:16 PM

Re: >>>"It's All Just a Game."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 858646)
Do you think for some the game becomes real life, the means to the end becomes the end in and of itself, and the journey becomes more important than the destination?

What are your thoughts concerning this bolded statement? Have we placed so much emphasis on the destination that we have lost sight of the beauty, joy and value of the journey? Just Thinkin.


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