What if....another Baptism question
 

What if it was the 16th century. You are reading through the bible and you come to the revelation that the first church baptized in Jesus name. You look around and nobody believes in baptism in Jesus name and so nobody will baptize you in Jesus name. What do you do?

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Didn't Epley at one point insinuate that you needed to be baptized by someone who was also baptized correctly? Basically part of an unending line which began with the first church.

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You could always save yourself and say the formula and self dunk.

But you would be sure to find the remnant somewhere on the planet.

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Dittos!

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I have always wondered if a person backslides and then prays back through should a second baptism be a part of his "doing your first workS over" or not? I have heard some say that there is nothing wrong with being re baptized while others say that once you have been baptized it is not necessary to do it again, ever! I was re baptized as an adult simply because the first time was when I was only 11 and I didn't even understand it except that I was told that since I had received the Holy Ghost, "now you need to be baptized in Jesus Name", so I was merely being obedient to the elders in the church. I know a few pastors who used to baptize in the name of "Jesus" who are now using the Hewbrew/Jewish name of Y'AHshua in baptism and am wondering if it matters or not?

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As to baptism in the name of Y'SHUA depends on what is meant by does it matter. I dont think it matters to salvation itself as Jesus is the English word accepted for Messiah.

On the other hand what a blessing and privilege to be baptized into the same name as the original New Testament Church was.

BTW where and who are these Pastors? Are they teaching one would be lost for not being baptized in the original name?

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How bout we meet you half way Mikey and baptize in the proper Anglicized name of JOSHUA?

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This is a problem that I have with most Apostolic churches today. They are "formula" driven. Jesus name baptism isn't a "formula" or a "liturgy" to be repeated over a person by an ordained "priesthood". Let's look at Paul's baptism closely,

(Acts 22:16 KJV)
(16) And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Paul was told to be water baptized, and wash away his sins, calling upon the name of the Lord. You see, Ananias didn’t repeat a formula over Paul. At baptism Paul himself called upon the name of Jesus for the remission (forgiveness) of his sins. Here’s the point, it doesn’t matter what a MAN speaks over you at the moment of baptism. What matters is that YOU are calling on Jesus to wash away your sins. If YOU don’t call on the name of the Lord for cleansing, you will not receive remission. You could have a Catholic priest baptize you in the names of Larry, Moe, and Curly, but if YOU are calling on the name of Jesus, your sins will be remitted. Or, you could have a Pentecostal preacher baptize you screaming, “In the name of Jesus!”, 100 times…but if YOUR not calling on the name of Jesus, the baptism is ineffectual.

Now, about the hypothetical man form the 16th century. If his heart was calling on the name of Jesus at his baptism, it doesn’t matter what “formula” or “liturgy” was used…the man’s sins were washed away. If he was baptized as an infant and chooses to be re-baptized, it doesn’t matter what’s said over him if his heart is calling on the name of the Lord.

God is concerned with the disposition of the heart…not the wording of a “formula” or “liturgy”. God's grace can cut through the muttered traditions of a priest to forgive the sins of a sincere heart.

If you look very closely at the Apostolic church of the NT... they didn't have a "formula". It was simply about the repentant calling on the name of Jesus while being burried with him in baptism.

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Well I agree that the proper Anglicized name would be Joshua. Since there was originally no J in Hebrew or English what is wrong with restoring the more proper and original Y which would yield Yoshua?

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You would have went and dug these folks up...

The quite is from wikipedia, so consider the source, but the reason I googeled anabaptists and Jesus name baptism is because I read it in book several years ago.