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Phil Stearns 04-16-2010 05:47 PM

For all the "one steppers"...
 
Many of you are fond of saying that there is no proof of anyone being saved by the 3 steps of Acts 2:38 in the past 1800-1900 years, before the turn of the 20th century back to the apostolic era. Right?

My question to you would be, do you have any proof of anyone being saved by simply "believing" or "justification by faith" before the Protestant Reformation? By your reasoning no one was saved during the Dark Ages or from the post apostolic era to the Reformation because there is no record of it on a large scale.

Timmy 04-16-2010 05:51 PM

Re: For all the "one steppers"...
 
Can you prove anyone was saved in the 20th or 21st Century, using whatever steps you want to specify?

Phil Stearns 04-16-2010 05:54 PM

Re: For all the "one steppers"...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 899652)
Can you prove anyone was saved in the 20th or 21st Century, using whatever steps you want to specify?

Nope. :ursofunny

CC1 04-16-2010 05:55 PM

Re: For all the "one steppers"...
 
Phil can be so stern....er... Stearns.

Timmy 04-16-2010 05:55 PM

Re: For all the "one steppers"...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 899652)
Can you prove anyone was saved in the 20th or 21st Century, using whatever steps you want to specify?

Note that in order to do so, you must prove all of the following (and maybe some I forgot):

1. You know the correct step(s).

2. You know that the candidate has correctly performed every step.

3. You know that God did not reject the candidate for some reason -- any reason. He's God. He can do anything He wants and there's nothing you can do about it. He answers a whole lot of prayers with a "no", after all. What will stop Him from rejecting an attempt at getting saved?

Timmy 04-16-2010 05:56 PM

Re: For all the "one steppers"...
 
Oops, I'm too slow! He already conceded! :toofunny

Phil Stearns 04-16-2010 05:57 PM

Re: For all the "one steppers"...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 899652)
Can you prove anyone was saved in the 20th or 21st Century, using whatever steps you want to specify?

No, but it has not been my argument that the lack of proof indicates that the Acts 2:38 message was not preached and therefore no one was saved for approximately 1800 years.

Timmy 04-16-2010 05:58 PM

Re: For all the "one steppers"...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Stearns (Post 899659)
No, but it has not been my argument that the lack of proof indicates that the Acts 2:38 message was not preached and therefore no one was saved for approximately 1800 years.

Ten four.

Phil Stearns 04-16-2010 05:59 PM

Re: For all the "one steppers"...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 899658)
Oops, I'm too slow! He already conceded! :toofunny

:razz

Jack Shephard 04-16-2010 06:01 PM

Re: For all the "one steppers"...
 
Timmy kind of beat me to it. I was ask if there is any verification of ANYONE ever making heaven? I mean there is no long distance carrier that could cover that call of confirmation.


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