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Mrs.Kelly 07-14-2010 08:41 AM

if your oneness but not UPC what are you?
 
I am a bit confused on this, are there other oneness organizations?

Do they believe in the apostles doctrine firmly, just without the "Holiness Standards"

Thanks :thumbsup

missourimary 07-14-2010 08:48 AM

Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?
 
There are other Oneness organizations.
Here are a couple:
Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship: generally a bit more conservative than UPC, new org, same basic doctrine
Assemblies of the Lord Jesus Christ: same basic doctrine. The organization is not new, they just never merged with the UPCI. I'd say their holiness standards are about the same as the UPC's. Maybe a bit more liberal than some.
Pentecostal Assemblies of the World: as far as I know, same basic doctrine. The organization isn't new, they don't take quite as strict a stand on "outward holiness".
There are also several loosely organized fellowships (not official organizations) and Independent churches, and a few more orgs I can't think of right now. They vary on "standards" but all teach the same basic Acts 2:38 doctrine.

*AQuietPlace* 07-14-2010 08:55 AM

Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?
 
A lot these days are simply going under the heading of 'non-denominational'.

MrsMcD 07-14-2010 09:15 AM

Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?
 
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 939791)
A lot these days are simply going under the heading of 'non-denominational'.

I wonder why. My husband did some work for a church here in my city and the pastor ending up being a PAW pastor so he invited us to visit. I was trying to find the church in the phone book and there was nothing anywhere that identified them as PAW.

*AQuietPlace* 07-14-2010 09:19 AM

Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?
 
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Originally Posted by MrsMcD (Post 939804)
I wonder why. My husband did some work for a church here in my city and the pastor ending up being a PAW pastor so he invited us to visit. I was trying to find the church in the phone book and there was nothing anywhere that identified them as PAW.

A lot are, because while they are oneness, and believe in Spirit infilling, there are many other issues with which they disagree with "Pentecostal" churches. So they no longer feel they should, or want to, use the label "Pentecostal". For many people, the label "Pentecostal" still pretty much links you to the belief system of the UPC.

mizpeh 07-14-2010 09:23 AM

Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs.Kelly (Post 939781)
I am a bit confused on this, are there other oneness organizations?

Do they believe in the apostles doctrine firmly, just without the "Holiness Standards"

Thanks :thumbsup

Many. I'll let you do the research. Here's a link you can start with. All I did was google "Oneness Pentecostal organizations". I believe Talmadge French has some stats also.


http://www.apostolic-churches.com/organizations.html

There are many OP independent churches as well.

There are many churches that believe in Jesus name baptism and receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking with other tongues and the Oneness of God that believe a person is saved/justified at faith and repentance.

They also believe in living a life of holiness but not a legalistic holiness.

Mrs.Kelly 07-14-2010 10:19 AM

Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?
 
Thank you Mary

Also I guess I wonder if there are any churches that believe in "Biblical Modestly" But not the strict stance on hair. Cut vs. Uncut Not looking to debate my opinion on it just wondering if such a church exists. (I am uncut not to split hairs I don't see where it teaches a woman to cut. And I don't see where it teaches to be uncut but it does say that a woman's long hair is her covering)

I am learning there is a lot out there that I never knew before. I have talked with my husband and we know that all churches/organizations may not be 100% correct in everything, that compromises are made here and there but what compromises are being made and for what purpose? Is the Holy Ghost leading the ministers and do they have the right as pastors to enforce their convictions if they are not strait out of the Word. I do think that it is ok if for safety sake we are warned of things that may not have been issues back when the gospels were written but I don't think they should be taught as heaven or hell issues.

Mrs.Kelly 07-14-2010 10:21 AM

Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mizpeh (Post 939808)
Many. I'll let you do the research. Here's a link you can start with. All I did was google "Oneness Pentecostal organizations". I believe Talmadge French has some stats also.


http://www.apostolic-churches.com/organizations.html

There are many OP independent churches as well.

There are many churches that believe in Jesus name baptism and receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking with other tongues and the Oneness of God that believe a person is saved/justified at faith and repentance.

They also believe in living a life of holiness but not a legalistic holiness.

Thanks Mizpeh :thumbsup

drummerboy_dave 07-14-2010 10:27 AM

Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?
 
MrsK,

The AWCF currently notes 181 orgs and over 20,000 ministers. This is excluding the UPCI which as I understand it, won't allow it's members to carry more than one affiliation.

Every person I know has standards and every apostolic I know, knows that without holiness no man shall see God. Am I to understand, that the "holiness standards" you're speaking of is primarily refering to "the UPC look/dress code"?

Mrs.Kelly 07-14-2010 10:43 AM

Re: if your oneness but not UPC what are you?
 
Dave,

Yes that is what I am referring to. I am not saying I am against standards/holiness/biblical modesty just trying to figure out where these different oneness churches/organizations stand on these issues.

I am looking through the site mizpeh posted now.


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