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Jack Shephard 09-14-2010 10:31 PM

Reality Church Los Angeles
 
Have you all heard of this church? It is a rapid-growing church in LA that is probably thought of by most as seeker friendly. I like the Pastors teaching and the way he presents his points. It is a very young church I think that it has only been going like 3 years. I will list a link to an article about the church as well as the link to the church. I am sure there will be some people that will tear down this church because of their heritage or whatever, but look over the site and read the article and see what you think.

http://www.details.com/culture-trend...llywood-church

http://www.realityla.com/#home

houstonupci 09-14-2010 10:55 PM

Re: Reality Church Los Angeles
 
I completely expected to be opposed to this church when I clicked on the article. I'm not too keen on Hipster Christianity. I'm also not for pushing for "relevance," but for some reason this church seems different. Would definitely visit if I were in the area. Will purchase my first pair of skinny jeans prior to attending.

Jack Shephard 09-14-2010 11:04 PM

Re: Reality Church Los Angeles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonupci (Post 963038)
I completely expected to be opposed to this church when I clicked on the article. I'm not too keen on Hipster Christianity. I'm also not for pushing for "relevance," but for some reason this church seems different. Would definitely visit if I were in the area. Will purchase my first pair of skinny jeans prior to attending.

You'd fit in I am sure.

I would encourage EVERYONE to visit a church like this to see how they operate.

Michael The Disciple 09-15-2010 03:18 PM

Re: Reality Church Los Angeles
 
Quote from the Pastor:


Quote:

"Our lives are ones of continual repentance, and to repent just means to turn away," he says. "Perfection is not required, but progress is possible."
Quoting Jesus:

[48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matt 5:48

Which one should they believe?

Sherri 09-15-2010 03:27 PM

Re: Reality Church Los Angeles
 
Michael--Perfection in this Scripture means "complete", doesn't it? I think our idea of perfection is totally different than that, which is what this church website is referring to.

Jack Shephard 09-15-2010 03:43 PM

Re: Reality Church Los Angeles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 963417)
Quote from the Pastor:




Quoting Jesus:

[48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matt 5:48

Which one should they believe?

I believe the word of God. But you are misusing this scripture. Perfect means complete or whole. Not perfect like the church is saying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 963419)
Michael--Perfection in this Scripture means "complete", doesn't it? I think our idea of perfection is totally different than that, which is what this church website is referring to.

You are so right!

Maximilian 09-15-2010 03:53 PM

Re: Reality Church Los Angeles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 963417)
Quote from the Pastor:




Quoting Jesus:

[48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matt 5:48

Which one should they believe?

Which one have you achieved?

Michael The Disciple 09-15-2010 03:54 PM

Re: Reality Church Los Angeles
 
Perfection to Jesus means perfection as taught by himself and the Apostles.

If it merely means "complete" you tell me in what way the Father is complete?

Be ye therefore complete even as your Father in Heaven is complete.

What does that mean in the light of this command?

Michael The Disciple 09-15-2010 03:56 PM

Re: Reality Church Los Angeles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximilian (Post 963443)
Which one have you achieved?

What if I never achieved it? Would that excuse everyone else from doing what Jesus said to do?

Michael The Disciple 09-15-2010 03:59 PM

Re: Reality Church Los Angeles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 963419)
Michael--Perfection in this Scripture means "complete", doesn't it? I think our idea of perfection is totally different than that, which is what this church website is referring to.

Look at it like this:

[12] Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God. Phil 4:12

PERFECT AND COMPLETE IN WHAT?

ALL THE WILL OF GOD!

To God to be perfect is doing all his will.

By the way, tons of scripture supports this. None support that perfection IS NOT required.


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