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crakjak 09-20-2010 07:53 AM

Atheists Christopher Hutchins Dying with Cancer
 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/20...est=latestnews

He says no deathbed conversion for him.

He will convert soon afterward however. He may cling to his unbelief now, but he will soon be in the presence of God who says He is a refining fire.

coadie 09-20-2010 08:13 AM

Re: Atheists Christopher Hutchins Dying with Cance
 
He has an argument with his brother Peter

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Hitchens.html

Christopher is an atheist. I am a believer. He once said in public: "The real difference between Peter and myself is the belief in the supernatural.

Praxeas 09-20-2010 11:15 AM

Re: Atheists Christopher Hutchins Dying with Cance
 
God is a refining fire. God is also the Judge. Face the Refining fire now or face Eternal fire then. It's your choice

pelathais 09-20-2010 04:22 PM

Re: Atheists Christopher Hutchins Dying with Cance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 964926)
God is a refining fire. God is also the Judge. Face the Refining fire now or face Eternal fire then. It's your choice

Jude 1:7, says that Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them are "suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

Yet, this entire region has been underwater for at least thousands of years. There's no "fire" in sight anywhere - "eternal" or otherwise. What does this "example" do for the concept of an "Eternal Lake of Fire" in which the damned are burned and tormented forever?

Just wondering myself, I have no hard and fast position on the idea of "Eternal Torment" for the damned.

geekette 09-20-2010 06:08 PM

Re: Atheists Christopher Hutchins Dying with Cance
 
It's spelled Hitchens. Christopher Hitchens.

He's not one of my favorite people but he does have the courage of his convictions. He underwent waterboarding a couple of years ago and came out of the experience with the opinion that it was "unquestionably torture." On the other hand, he was very much a supporter of the war in Iraq. Plus he made the choice to become a US citizen a few years ago!

ILG 09-20-2010 06:12 PM

Re: Atheists Christopher Hutchins Dying with Cance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geekette (Post 965193)
It's spelled Hitchens. Christopher Hitchens.

He's not one of my favorite people but he does have the courage of his convictions. He underwent waterboarding a couple of years ago and came out of the experience with the opinion that it was "unquestionably torture." On the other hand, he was very much a supporter of the war in Iraq. Plus he made the choice to become a US citizen a few years ago!

I checked a book out by him once, but I couldn't get into it. But, I do agree, he does have the courage of his convictions it would seem.

pelathais 09-20-2010 07:03 PM

Re: Atheists Christopher Hutchins Dying with Cance
 
I like Hutch... I mean Hitch. He's one of those Liberals who got "mugged" on 9/11. He has come across as a rascal at times, but then again, he's sort of an entertainer playing a role. Only in his case, the "role" is being the rascal that he is.

Today is "Pray For Christopher Hitchins Day." As an atheist he has probably gotten more people into a moment a prayer today than all of Sunday's preachers have done. There's lots of irony around this man. I wish him well and pray for his health.

Truthseeker 09-20-2010 07:17 PM

Re: Atheists Christopher Hutchins Dying with Cance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 965166)
Jude 1:7, says that Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them are "suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

Yet, this entire region has been underwater for at least thousands of years. There's no "fire" in sight anywhere - "eternal" or otherwise. What does this "example" do for the concept of an "Eternal Lake of Fire" in which the damned are burned and tormented forever?

Just wondering myself, I have no hard and fast position on the idea of "Eternal Torment" for the damned.

Could it have more to do with the permanent destruction instead of a fiery play called hell?

Margies3 09-20-2010 07:20 PM

Re: Atheists Christopher Hutchins Dying with Cance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geekette (Post 965193)
It's spelled Hitchens. Christopher Hitchens.

He's not one of my favorite people but he does have the courage of his convictions. He underwent waterboarding a couple of years ago and came out of the experience with the opinion that it was "unquestionably torture." On the other hand, he was very much a supporter of the war in Iraq. Plus he made the choice to become a US citizen a few years ago!

There are some times in life when having the courage of your convictions is NOT a good thing. This is definitely one of them.

crakjak 09-20-2010 10:30 PM

Re: Atheists Christopher Hutchins Dying with Cance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 964884)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/20...est=latestnews

He says no deathbed conversion for him.

He will convert soon afterward however. He may cling to his unbelief now, but he will soon be in the presence of God who says He is a refining fire.

I stand corrected, spell check messed my title up, IT IS Hitchens!! He is very interesting to listen to about the political sense. His view of religion is probably pretty accurate in many quarters!!


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