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Has evolutionism become a leading religion?

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Since both naturalism and humanism exclude God from science or any other active function in the creation or maintenance of life and the universe in general, it is very obvious that their position is nothing but atheism. And atheism, no less than theism, is a religion! Even doctrinaire-atheistic evolutionist Richard Dawkins admits that atheism cannot be proven to be true.

Henry Morris

Of course we know the approved state religion is secular humanism. Texas recently debated text book standards and rattled the atheists. 39% of Americans believe in evolution. That is very low considering how heavily it is pushed in schools.

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The evolutionist, Richard Dawkins, stated: Suppose we want to suggest, for instance, that life began when both DNA and its protein- based replication machinery spontaneously chanced to come into existence. We can allow ourselves the luxury of such an extravagant theory, provided that the odds against this coincidence occurring on a planet do not exceed 100 billion billion to one” (Dawkins, 1996, pp. 144, 146).

Even Dawkins refers to faith against the odds of life being self caused.

Recently the politically correct movement was to embrace Islam. What will they do since Islam also rejects Darwinism? The atheists can't get a Muslim science teacher fired.

The goal of the atheirst is to get sceptics fired.

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October 5th, 2010Internationalanti-evolution2010
Gavriel Avital was dismissed from his position as chief scientist in Israel's ministry of education due to his denial of evolution and global warming, according to Haaretz (October 5, 2010). In February 2010, Avital's views sparked a furor; Haaretz (February 21, 2010) quoted him as saying, "If textbooks state explicitly that human beings' origins are to be found with monkeys, I would want students to pursue and grapple with other opinions. ... Part of my responsibility, in light of my position with the Education Ministry, is to examine textbooks and curricula."

http://ncse.com/news/2010/10/gavriel...-israel-006231

He also didn't buy global warming.

Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?

It is my opinion that teaching evolution in public schools is the teaching of a specific religious belief the same as teaching creation in 6 literal 24 hour days would be.

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Evolution is not a religion

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 972533)

Evolution is not a religion

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In the official journal of the South Australian branch of the Australian Skeptics (this organization has similar aims to American humanist groups), the entire 30 pages of The Southern Skeptic, Volume 2 Number 5, Autumn 1985, were devoted to an attack on the creation science ministry in Australia and the United States. On the last page, we read the following: "Even if all the evidence ended up supporting whichever scientific theories best fitted Genesis, this would only show how clever the old Hebrews were in their use of common sense, or how lucky. It does not need to be explained by unobservable God." These people who vehemently attack the creation ministry in saying we are a religious group are themselves a religions group. They have really said that even if all the evidence supported the book of Genesis they still would not believe it was an authoritative document. They are working from the premise that the Bible is not the Word of God, nor can it ever be. They believe, no matter what the evidence, that there is no God. These same people are most adamant that evolution is a fact.

Evolution is basically a religious philosophy. We in creation ministries are explaining to people that both creation and evolution are religious views of life upon which people build their particular models of philosophy, science or history. The issue, therefore, is not science versus religion, but religion versus religion (the science of one religion versus the science of another religion).

http://www.creationists.org/evolutio...-religion.html

Yes the Darwinists claim their documents are authoritative and the Christians documents are not.

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The famous evolutionist Theodosius Dobzhanksy (The American Biology Teacher, volume 35, number 3, March 1973, page 129) quotes Pierre Teilhard de Chardin: "Evolution is a light which illuminates all facts, a trajectory which all lines of thought must follow." To the Christian, of course, this is a direct denial of the sayings of Jesus as quoted in John 8:12 (NIV): "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." In Isaiah 2:5 (NIV) we are exhorted to "walk in the light of the Lord." In verse 22 of the same chapter we read, "Stop trusting in man...."

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All the evidence a scientists has exists only in the present

They even take the present to write "history"

Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?

I think this was taken back in 2006:

Acceptance of Evolution:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...g?t=1278446589

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/706

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Originally Posted by Justin (Post 972565)

I think this was taken back in 2006:

Acceptance of Evolution:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...g?t=1278446589

That is an interesting chart. Where did you get that from?

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Theodosius Dobzhansky, one of the 20th century's most eminent evolutionary biologists, had it right when he said, "Nothing in biology makes sense except in light of evolution." Evolution is the conceptual paradigm that ties together all the life sciences. Without the explanatory framework provided by the theory of evolution, the biological sciences would be disjointed and much within biology would not make sense. Denial of evolution thus amounts to denial of the foundations of modern biology

I say God explains creation. They say evolution does.

Actually he says that I deny the foundations of modern biology.

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Originally Posted by Twisp (Post 972570)

That is an interesting chart. Where did you get that from?

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/706

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Originally Posted by Justin (Post 972585)

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/706

Richard Dawkins discussion board is closed. I asked Richard the leader in atheism/evolution on the planet to comment on this suicide. They deleted my post for some reason.

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The Story of Jesse Kilgore and the Consequences of Teaching One Side of Evolution

This episode of ID the Future (MP3 here) tells the story of Jesse Kilgore, a college student whose loss of faith and subsequent suicide has been linked to his biology class and Richard Dawkins’ The God Delusion. After his professor challenged him to read the anti-theistic book and rule out the possibility of God’s existence in light of the evidence for evolution, Jesse experienced a crisis of faith. Now his father is arguing for academic freedom for intelligent design and critiques of Darwin’s theory. Listen in as he and others explain how Jesse was affected by reading this book.

The tragedy of Jesse Kilgore’s death affects all of us. Our thoughts and prayers are with those who knew and loved him.

Source: http://www.idthefuture.com/2008/12/t..._on_intel.html

Evolution must be a religion if a biology instructor is handing out God delusion books. for reading.

They don't hand out religions commentaries in ceramics classes.